Comments Thread For: Fury Promoter Fires Back at Eddie Hearn Over Fury-Joshua Fallout

[billeau2]

If that’s the case how come the company behind AJ are running more articles on fury than they are Joshua? Fury has twice the fans AJ has in America and both are just as equally known around the U.K. And Europe.

fury is already a highly publicised fighter without Hearn and before this fight was even negotiated.

So fury hasn’t gotten any more publicity than Hearn or Joshua.

how come fury is supposed to breach contracts and be open to be sued, pay £20M dollars to make someone wait a few months longer for a fight you are still going to have to give him,

but Eddie couldn’t and wouldn't give wilder the split he wanted to give the whole world the fight it wants, and intentionally made sure that fight didn’t happen.

So In his IFL Interview Eddie even gave himself away, apparently this fury fight was everything they’d ever worked for, UNDISPUTED. but they had exact same opportunity with wilder, and onto that...

if Eddie really did all he could to make this fury fight, then he clearly didn’t in the wilder situation, because not once did he strop like this.

he hop skipped and sung all the way to Joseph Parker and gave the world Aj- Parker.

funny isn’t it? How you casuals like to remember things.

you my friend, have been used as a mop on this floor. Took to the cleaners.

snookered. Where you going to go now Robbie? Please give us this boxing knowledge you possess an shut my point down? With actual facts though, not just those cringy bias opinions of yours.

These idiots have no shame... They are fans of promoters, a ridiculous concept if there ever was one. They get on to these forums... with no accountability for the ridiculous things they say, until events unfold and expose them as idiots. To actually believe that a promoter at any major level would not have a legal person vis a vis even a legal department, to explain to them potentially what an arbitration decision could yield, is beyond ******. But because of these guillable morons, Fast Eddie can actually claim he trusted someone with competing interests, to inform him about a legal decision that was obviously not in the best interests to be Fast Eddie's council. You never look at opposing council as a source of information without verifying, checking, and having your own legal council advise...One would have to be incompitant beyond belief to do so...

Lawyers are allowed to lie... Police also. Promoters that have the highest success and integrity... you don't see them in the news. Wilder has been very succesfully managed. Find an interview with Al H, or Shelly F... its impossible, they don't exist. Go figure!

[Slip jab]

Hilarious. The Fury defence is "how could he know he'd lose arbitration", well how the **** could Hearn know? He delivered on his side. He certainly went above and beyond for a fight "he didn't want", of course the reality is he did want it but you'd rather make up illogical arguments than accept it.

Lol smh . I'm just gonna go with these facts ok
AJ hasn't faced fury or wilder. Bottom line. Anything outside of this is conjecture though I question Hearns intentions for either. Imo he doesn't want either n I'm basing that off the fact he hasn't faced either.
Pick a stance dude I'm not arguing with you or however u decide to view things. So u think Hearn genuinely wanted both fights? Neither happened. Some facts to consider lol

[kafkod]

Actually no. Undisputed is just clout for Eddie to get this next fight for Joshua. And it won't be Usyk. Which will be used to avoid facing the winner of the trilogy.
I can almost hear Eddie now: "we want undisputed but we have this Usyk mandatory"

That makes as much sense as saying Fury/Wilder 3 was signed easily. In other words, no sense at all.

[Boxing Goat]

Maybe if he wasn't supposed to organising a fight between Usyk and his own fighter Joe Joyce for mandatory per WBO ruling.

Usyk has been the #1 contender before Joyce was anywhere near a shot so that means nada. Also, as you should know, Joycs is scheduled to fight already, as he should be.

[kafkod]

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These idiots have no shame... They are fans of promoters, a ridiculous concept if there ever was one. They get on to these forums... with no accountability for the ridiculous things they say, until events unfold and expose them as idiots. To actually believe that a promoter at any major level would not have a legal person vis a vis even a legal department, to explain to them potentially what an arbitration decision could yield, is beyond ******. But because of these guillable morons, Fast Eddie can actually claim he trusted someone with competing interests, to inform him about a legal decision that was obviously not in the best interests to be Fast Eddie's council. You never look at opposing council as a source of information without verifying, checking, and having your own legal council advise...One would have to be incompitant beyond belief to do so...

Lawyers are allowed to lie... Police also. Promoters that have the highest success and integrity... you don't see them in the news. Wilder has been very succesfully managed. Find an interview with Al H, or Shelly F... its impossible, they don't exist. Go figure!

I don't understand why you're talking about Arum and Hearn having competing interests when they were supposed to be working together on co-promoting a massive fight that would have made fantastic money for both their fighters. That only makes sense if you assume that one of them was trying to make the fight and the other was trying to block it.

Neither do I understand why you call Arum Eddie's "opposing council" in the Fury/Wilder arbitration. Eddie wasn't involved in the case himself and, again, they should both have been hoping for the same outcome!

Yes, anybody is allowed to lie, unless they are under oath, but that doesn't mean they have to lie, and it doesn't mean that the people they lie to - which includes fans like us - have to accept their ****ing lies without complaining.

[DaNeutral.]

Lol smh . I'm just gonna go with these facts ok
AJ hasn't faced fury or wilder. Bottom line. Anything outside of this is conjecture though I question Hearns intentions for either. Imo he doesn't want either n I'm basing that off the fact he hasn't faced either.
Pick a stance dude I'm not arguing with you or however u decide to view things. So u think Hearn genuinely wanted both fights? Neither happened. Some facts to consider lol

A lot of fights don’t happen that should. I say Wilder and Fury have ducked. How many contracts have been delivered to Joshua from either Wilder or Fury ever? The answer is none. Same can’t be said for contracts sent from Joshua to Wilder or Fury.

[billeau2]

I don't understand why you're talking about Arum and Hearn having competing interests when they were supposed to be working together on co-promoting a massive fight that would have made fantastic money for both their fighters. That only makes sense if you assume that one of them was trying to make the fight and the other was trying to block it.

Neither do I understand why you call Arum Eddie's "opposing council" in the Fury/Wilder arbitration. Eddie wasn't involved in the case himself and, again, they should both have been hoping for the same outco
Yes, anybody is allowed to lie, unless they are under oath, but that doesn't mean they have to lie, and it doesn't mean that the people the lie to - which includes fans like us - have to accept their ****ing lies without complaining.

They are representing two different clients. A lawyer's fidelity is to his client. Promoters are a type of fiduciary that gets paid based on performance. What happens to Joshua does not concern Arum unless it is directly involved with his scope of involvement. It makes total sense because for Arum there was nothing to lose in letting this fight get traction. It could only benefit Fury and not harm his interests. I explained this to you already in another post... You may not be receptive to it but its true. Again, what if Wilder decided to call off arbitration, or would accept a payment... what if lyWilder was injured? Then Eddie pursuing the fight would bear much fruit for Arum/ Fury wouldn't it?

Wilder's people never said anything to anybody. Wilder's team was looking out for Wilder. Wilder's wish was for the fight to happen and thats the goal of his team. BUT given that the arbitration affected Eddie hearn's client, you can bet Hearn was knowlegable about the details of that hearing.

You don't really understand that lying is partially a matter of context. "Hey son Christmas is coming! and you will be 4 and yes of course Santa is real!" Or, lets say someone pleads the 5th ********* to the united states constitution when asked if they sold a knife to a killer. Is he lying in hid refusal to incriminate himself? I mention this because Any promoter does have to lie under certain conditions when it comes to putting their own interests, via extension the interests of their client, first... Here comes Pulov the 40 year old painfully slow jab jab step, prodigy! when asked about his chances against Joshua what is Hearn supposed to say "well this tomatoe can couldn't beat AJ if he were a fish in a barrel!" NO! the Bulgarian becomes the terrifying menace of the East Bloc!! raised on goat yogurt and Kasha... you cannot reason with him... his kill face alone gave the drill srgnt in full metal jacket a heart attack! Poor AJ!!

As far as lying to the fans? and not accepting it? Amen brother! YES! They are all s cumbags! That means fast eddie, charming fellow that he is... will lie to the fans to protect his interests, Satanic Bob, has shown for ages that he is a greedy, spoiler of potentially great fights... look what he has "done" for Fury... Warren? Schaefer? De La Hoya? Mayweather? All these guys have shown that when wearing the shoes of promoter they are hardly interested in what is best for the fighters...

[Jack Rivers]

They need to throw bob arum, frank warren and then rest of these promoters in a duffel bag and drop them off a bridge.

[kafkod]

They are representing two different clients. A lawyer's fidelity is to his client. Promoters are a type of fiduciary that gets paid based on performance. What happens to Joshua does not concern Arum unless it is directly involved with his scope of involvement.

I just want to check something with you before I go any further into your post ... you do know that Hearn was trying to arrange a fight between Joshua and Fury for the undisputed HW title, and that Arum would have co-promoted the fight with Eddie?

[Slip jab]

A lot of fights don’t happen that should. I say Wilder and Fury have ducked. How many contracts have been delivered to Joshua from either Wilder or Fury ever? The answer is none. Same can’t be said for contracts sent from Joshua to Wilder or Fury.

Ok of course. That's your view. I can understand but I just don't come to that conclusion. Can I ask why??? Which facts or nonethereof point u in that direction??? For me it's because AJ hasn't been matched vs fury or wilder n I'm questioning whether hearn actually wanted either fights. After the respective publicity, Hearn got the opposite results of his publicized intention. TWICE. N because neither fight was made I question his intentions.