Roy Jones Jr Vs. Bernard Hopkins

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  • ßringer
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    #11
    Originally posted by djtmal
    hopkins according to his haters...and even that win on hopkins carries the excuse from hopkins lovers that hopkins was green....
    Hopkins was greener than Roy.

    You can't dispute that.

    Roy was winning medals and having a celebrated Amateur career while Hopkins was standing in the chow line at Graterford.

    Was Roy prime? No.

    But he definitely was more experienced.

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      #12
      Bernards first loss doesnt count because it was his first fight.

      Bernard loss to Roy, doesnt count because he was green.

      Bernard TWO losses to Jermain Taylor, don't count because he actually won both.

      Bernards loss to Calzaghe doesnt count, because he actually won that fight too.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        Hopkins was greener than Roy.

        You can't dispute that.

        Roy was winning medals and having a celebrated Amateur career while Hopkins was standing in the chow line at Graterford.

        Was Roy prime? No.

        But he definitely was more experienced.
        Not to mention he had the best fight of his career a little later against Toney, while Hopkins struggled with Mercado the first time.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          I would've liked to see Roy swallow his pride 8 years ago and fight Bernard then ; when Hopkins had earned it and was in his prime.

          As it stands ; 60/40 Hopkins kicks Roy's ass.

          LOL, to be quite honest, if JONES has to swallow his pride, then so be it. I just really want to see this fight, and have been wanting to see it for a LONG TIME.

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            #15
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            Bernards first loss doesnt count because it was his first fight.

            Bernard loss to Roy, doesnt count because he was green.

            Bernard TWO losses to Jermain Taylor, don't count because he actually won both.

            Bernards loss to Calzaghe doesnt count, because he actually won that fight too.
            Now you get it. .

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              #16
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              Bernards first loss doesnt count because it was his first fight.

              Bernard loss to Roy, doesnt count because he was green.

              Bernard TWO losses to Jermain Taylor, don't count because he actually won both.

              Bernards loss to Calzaghe doesnt count, because he actually won that fight too.
              Hopkins losses to everybody but Jones = Close split decisions.

              Jones losses to everybody but Griffin = Knocked out cold or completely embarassed.

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                #17
                Originally posted by street bully
                Now you get it. .
                But Roy fans are the only delussional fans.

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                  #18
                  Bernards split decision loss to Joe is no different than Oscars split decision loss to Floyd.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    Hopkins was greener than Roy.

                    You can't dispute that.

                    Roy was winning medals and having a celebrated Amateur career while Hopkins was standing in the chow line at Graterford.

                    Was Roy prime? No.

                    But he definitely was more experienced.


                    you've just been elected unanimously as president of the hopkins excuse making fan club

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by niteshift
                      LOL, to be quite honest, if JONES has to swallow his pride, then so be it. I just really want to see this fight, and have been wanting to see it for a LONG TIME.
                      He won't.

                      He wouldn't do it 8 years ago when the fight was the biggest thing to be made in boxing at the time.

                      He blew Bernard off for Glen Kelly.

                      What makes you think he'll accept 40% now?

                      His ego won't allow him to ; he can't accept the fact that Hopkins is the one holding all the cards this time around.

                      Hopkins has options for big fights outside of Roy.

                      Roy ain't got no options for a big fight outside of Hopkins.

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