I belive Anthony Joshua has about 5% chance to avoid being ko'd by Usyk

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  • Dakuwaqa
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    #11
    Originally posted by Toffee

    We regularly say that triangle theory doesn't work. You're moving into dodecahedron territory.

    And Usyk might have gained weight, but it's very unlikely he's gained height.
    He’s pulling your leg buddy. Massive wind up merchant

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    • sunny31
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      #12
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

      Let me put it this way.

      Usyk is 6'4" 230lbs Plus now.

      Lewis was 6'4.5" and in the 230s when he was in his prime.

      Usyk is a super heavyweight.

      Usyk has beaten Bredis and Gassiev who are both ATG and P4P greats who would easily dominate the heavyweights.

      In addition to this Usyk knocked put Tony Bellew who walked through David Hayes best shots so he punches harder than David Haye.

      Usyk also didn't get knocked down by Chisora who knocked down Parker so he has a better chin than Parker who is known for one of the best chins at heavyweight.

      Now obviously there's a chance of a freak injury like Usyk ripping his hamstring or something which is why I give the 5%

      But outside of that I see Joshua as having literally no chance in this fight.
      This is very fanciful, Usyk is 6.3 at best. He might punch a bit heavier than Haye, but I'm not sure he is the better puncher, you're triangle theory is idiotic...you know that.

      He was shorter than Tony Bellew, I would put him on David Haye's height. More importantly he fights with a wide stance and at heavyweight he isn't particularly light on his feet. Joshua is significantly taller, longer reach, more athletic, and actually...becoming a very good boxer. He processes well, maybe not as quick as Usyk, but when you combine it with the physical advantages he's got a serious job of even finding AJ let alone beating him.

      I think people sleep on Usyk's power, he has the power to KO Joshua, no doubt about it. I'd put his power on par with Whyte.

      A lot will depend on how Usyk takes Joshua's power and how ambitious he is if he can take the power. Is he willing to get hurt to win? I agree he has a fantastic chin, but he's never been in there with a guy that hits like Joshua without a head gear on, it's an interesting aspect of the fight.

      I think Joshua will be prepared and UD's him. I think Usyk will have some moments but on the whole he'll be too off balance to really sustain enough offence to win rounds and once he feels a good power shot, I won't say he will Coast to a loss but it will def curb his ambition. I wouldn't be surprised if Joshia lands something and gets him out of there, I would be more surprised if Usyk Ko'd Josh but def possible as well.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

        Let me put it this way.

        Usyk is 6'4" 230lbs Plus now.

        Lewis was 6'4.5" and in the 230s when he was in his prime.

        Usyk is a super heavyweight.

        Usyk has beaten Bredis and Gassiev who are both ATG and P4P greats who would easily dominate the heavyweights.

        In addition to this Usyk knocked put Tony Bellew who walked through David Hayes best shots so he punches harder than David Haye.

        Usyk also didn't get knocked down by Chisora who knocked down Parker so he has a better chin than Parker who is known for one of the best chins at heavyweight.

        Now obviously there's a chance of a freak injury like Usyk ripping his hamstring or something which is why I give the 5%

        But outside of that I see Joshua as having literally no chance in this fight.
        You are trying to convince yourself, you do not believe anything written in this post.

        Bellew was dead at the weight, and even so? Haye was beating Bellew for 6 rounds straight with his jab alone in the first fight 'A better version of Bellew than Usyk fought'.

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        • hugh grant
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          #14
          Usyk an win but not by ko

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            #15
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

            Bellew was dead at the weight, I think Bellew would last the distance 'Possibly has a better chance of beating Uysk at heavyweight'.
            No he wasn't he made the weight fine lol. He was a career cruiserweight who just didn't cut any weight to fight Haye (210) you guys are acting like he had to drop sixty pounds to make 200.

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            • Kezzer
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              #16
              Is this based on Usyk’s really low KO % to date?

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              • kafkod
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                #17
                Usyk might be making a mistake if he comes in 230lb+ against AJ.

                I think his speed, mobility, and stamina give him a good chance of pulling off an upset. Beefing up too much could take those advantages away.

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                • kafkod
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Kezzer
                  Is this based on Usyk’s really low KO % to date?

                  Usyk has 72.22% KOs, which is actually quite high.

                  Andy Ruiz has 61.11% KO's and he stopped AJ in their first fight.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                    The other fella says points but nah.

                    Usyk is 230lbs now, hes basically as big as AJ

                    Look at the angles, the speed, the timing.

                    AJ is just a big clunky idiot with a glass chin and no stamina

                    Usyk is gonna absoloutley BODY AJ with ease

                    I reckon Wilder clips fury this time too and we get Wilder vs Usyk for undisputed at Christmas time.

                    A slimmed down AJ weighed 247 and he normally fights in the low to mid-250’s.

                    Usyk would be better off coming in light himself to maximize the speed you mentioned.

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                      #20
                      I think the fight is like 60/40 in favour of AJ. And Usyk would be more likely to win on the scorecards than via stoppage IF there was no corruption at play, but there probably will be.

                      He can certainly hurt AJ via cumulative damage and/or if AJ gasses as the fight goes on though.

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