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  • GucciGod
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    #11
    I think it’s funny how sky sports boxing news are running 3X the amount of articles on Tyson fury than they have with Anthony Joshua.

    and AJ accused fury of trying to “gain clout”.

    I struggle to see what was to gain though. Neither can claim to be more known than the other in Europe, and when it comes to US it’s clear as day Fury has 100% More fans there than AJ does.

    so again, what was to be gained? Joshua always does this, used Wilders name and fought Parker. I could go on for days.

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    • Boxing Beast
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      #12
      The poster child for boxing is a 6’9” mental health suffering crackhead. This man has had steroid problems, glove problems, and been referred to by referees as the “dirtiest fighter in boxing”. Tris Dixon the author of this article seems to think it’s bad for boxing that some judge is now making the crackhead honor his contractual obligations. On the contrary Tris, this is the moral way to go, put the crack pipe down.

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      • Toffee
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        #13
        Boxing regularly defeats itself, but this is a rare instance where everyone did what they should, with the exception of one guilty party who is the one who suffered most.

        If Wilder was entitled to a rematch, then he should get it. Another Fury fight is the best he could expect, and it looks like he will get it.

        If Wilder was entitled to a rematch, then Joshua should go and fight mandatories. Which he did in December after an enforced COVID hiatus and will do again in July/August.

        If Wilder was entitled to a rematch, then Fury was inactive for 17 months of his prime for no good reason other than breaking a deal he had put his signature on.

        It wasn't caused by the mob, networks didn't ruin the fight, the money was apparently acceptable, the promoters worked on the deal, and the orgs actually helped to facilitate the fight.

        Boxing didn't eat itself. ​​​​​The fight didn't happen because one guy thinks he's too good to live up to his contractual obligations. And he was proven wrong.

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        • Patsfan bri
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          #14
          Not for nothing but this kind of fury fault for telling the world that the rematch clause had expired. Now maybe it did but big time boxing was on hold for a while because of the pandemic so fury should have known he would still have to honor it at some point.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #15
            The premise of this article seems to lament the business of boxing as it pertains to the British boxing fan, the real boxing fan in Britain it is. The author even calls out the “casuals” (ie the sweet carolines.) not without cause in my eyes, you really don’t have many championship class fighters in Britain these days but the 3 you do have are literally on top of their divisions in Taylor, Fury, and Joshua. Taylor seems to get zero recognition in the U.K. outside of Scotland, Joshua hasn’t had a meaningful fight since Ruiz and that wasn’t even in the U.K. for U.K. fans, and that really only leaves Fury in big fights lately with Wilder. U.K. fans rightfully wanted Fury and Joshua to fight however U.K. fans were severely teased and led astray by Eddie Hearn falling prey to the antics of Fury and Arum when Wilder and the arbitration processes tore the proposed fury back Joshua fight asunder. That fight should have NEVER been pursued. The monumental failure to make that fight was in the plain reality that it should have never been actively pursued. And now you have a MASSIVE summer schedule of fights announced by the PBC. While Hearn sounded off day in and day out about fury v Joshua, Al Haymon quietly set up Spence v Pacquiao, Barrios v Tank, knew Wilder v Fury III would be made, and is set to announce Canelo v Plant, on top of all the regular Showtime and soon to be announced FOX cards that are on their way. We are sure to get some cracking fights for co main events and undercards for those PPV cards as well. There is something to be said about operating in the dark and keeping quiet when making fights that Edward Hearn simply can’t seem to fathom. No one saw the Spence manny fight coming they just dropped that fight on us out of nowhere. That’s how you do it, that way when it doesn’t happen the fans are not jaded. What big fights does Eddie Hearn have on the horizon now? In fact, other than Joshua, who can be make a big card around in the U.K. for actual U.K. fans? Hearn has put all his eggs in two baskets...Canelo and Joshua, and Canelo is clearly a fighter for the American market. You don’t have Mexicans in Salford. In the absence of a big fight that was fury v Joshua, where does young Edward now go for a big fight or even big fights for U.K. fans? He recently preached “world domination” seeking contracts with fighters from various nations around the world, but what does that really do for his standing with the sweet carolines?

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            • Get em up
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              #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              There was a rematch clause in the contract for Fury vs Wilder II.

              It is what it is, people need to stop crying that Fury is being forced to live up to what he signed.
              The 3rd match wouldve already happened but the pandemic affected everybody and in a sport where top names usually only fight every 6 months and the fans in seats are part of the paycheck what does anybody expect.

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              • Cyborg Fangerloo
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                #17
                We need a total systemic reformation. Some great points can be made about how we are still seeing some good fights during COVID and such, but making the fights that people want to see gets so tied up with our promoters and a “me before we” attitude. How and when? I am careful to complain about things that I do not offer solutions to. On one hand it is very sad that so few people even know who the HW champ(s) is/are. That said, is it time for a real shake up reformation or does it have to get worse first? If we got a unified and definitive HW champ and he was called “Champ”, would the new amount of money involved make it even more difficult to make fights and progress? I would love answers to these questions.

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                • Fighter78
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Boxing Beast
                  The poster child for boxing is a 6’9” mental health suffering crackhead. This man has had steroid problems, glove problems, and been referred to by referees as the “dirtiest fighter in boxing”. Tris Dixon the author of this article seems to think it’s bad for boxing that some judge is now making the crackhead honor his contractual obligations. On the contrary Tris, this is the moral way to go, put the crack pipe down.
                  Its literally amazing how many people think this 6'9" fledgling fat ugly drug using bum who's never defended the title against a legit opponent or honored a rematch up to this point is somehow the best HW in the world....LOL....its literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard in boxing....but then again I'll never accuse a fury fan of being able to think themselves out of a wet paper bag. These people are disgustingly dense.

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                  • tophat1
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                    #19
                    Good article, hes spot on.

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                    • zod66
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                      #20
                      Boooooooomb squuuuaaaaaaaaaad

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