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  • #61
    Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
    I gave rounds 2, 3, 5, 9, 11 and 12 to Ramirez. The 5th round was the one where I could have given it to Taylor. I don't think it is a disgrace at all, just that Taylor lost majority of the late rounds but by then the fight was essentially over. Heading to the last four rounds, I had it 77-73 Taylor so Ramirez had to sweep those rounds just to get to a draw, and some likely had it 78-72 so it was impossible for Ramirez to get a win unless he got a KO. So that's why it seemed like a wider Taylor win since the fight was really never in doubt after the second KD.

    He needs to work on his late fight stamina though. Against Prograis he didn't close well either and lost the last two rounds and did the same this fight. Against the top WWs that will have to change.
    How you gonna give Ramirez the 5th and the 12th when Taylor was landing more power punches and jabs?? Literally makes no sense. Sensibly Ramirez had 4 rounds. 2, 3, 4, 11.

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    • #62
      Taylor should have took him out but couldn't. LOL! When you cross the pond don't expect to get a home town call at least not in Vegas. You won rightly so. It won't get any easier so get on your bicycle and do your road work. Think twice about moving up to 147................................Just saying.

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      • #63
        Kenny didnt have a great night for me

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        • #64
          Originally posted by JayCho View Post
          After the 8th round he took his foot off the gas and fought how he did in rounds 2-5, trying to clip him here and there.
          should have put his foot down and finish the job like he would have done previously. This is boxercise Ben’s influence as Shane McGuigan is a lot more aggressive
          Taylor was taking too much punishment under McGuigan, giving away his height and range, not fully utilising the defensive skills and footwork he demonstrated against Ramirez. Great for the fans, I guess, but not for the long term career of a fighter like Taylor, who has a great chin, put seems to cut and bruise too easily to be fighting like that against elite opposition. Facial damage almost cost him the win against Prograis.

          Davison's "hit and not get hit" approach suits him a lot better. But Ben needs to realise that you can't trust the judges in the US. From the 6th onwards, Taylor clearly won every round except the 11th. I would have liked to see him seal his win by going after Ramirez more in the 12th, but it wasn't really necessary. The scorecards were ****ing disgraceful.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dreamking View Post

            How you gonna give Ramirez the 5th and the 12th when Taylor was landing more power punches and jabs?? Literally makes no sense. Sensibly Ramirez had 4 rounds. 2, 3, 4, 11.
            And 2 of those were close rounds that could have been scored either way.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Dreamking View Post

              How you gonna give Ramirez the 5th and the 12th when Taylor was landing more power punches and jabs?? Literally makes no sense. Sensibly Ramirez had 4 rounds. 2, 3, 4, 11.
              Landing more punches doesn't necessarily mean that particular fighter won the round. Ramirez clearly landed the better shots in the 12th round and had Taylor holding on and trying to just kill the clock.

              As I stated, the 5th round was a true toss up round. Taylor landed more but Ramirez buzzed him late in the round. 4th round was very close as well and I know many who scored it for Ramirez, but I scored it for Taylor.

              I don't think my scorecard is anything crazy. Most people had it 7-5 or 6-6 in terms of rounds.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sosay View Post
                I definitely agree. Disgraceful that the judges had it that close. At least the better fighter won.
                It was a legitmately close fight, which was decided by the strength of the knockdowns. Taylor should find a better pot to piss from.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BlackR0bbb View Post
                  114-112 was the right score. Ramirez won seven rounds. Taylor won five. The rounds Taylor won were 1, 4, 6, 7, 8. Ramirez clearly swept the final four rounds. Taylor is yammering endlessly about nothing. He's an incredibly insufferable dude. I pray Bob feeds him to Crawford next.
                  I thought they both won 6, with some close rounds. It was a well scored fight. Taylor doesn't seem like the most likeable chap around.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sosay View Post
                    You guys clearly gave Ramirez every close rd. Scoring us subjective though. I had Taylor 8-4 or 7-5 so I had it 116-110 or 115-111. Taylor let up but Ramirez wasn't really doing more or landing more even when he let up.

                    I bet the punches were pretty even in most rds. The right man and better fighter won is all I care about. Neither will be a top dog at 147 but Taylor has a chance.. Ramirez defensive is just horrible and will get him Ko'd at 147.
                    I had the same score as the judges....Agreed about Ramirez, he will get slaughtered above JW...With a little more sustained attack, I think Taylor would have gotten him out of there.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dreamking View Post

                      How you gonna give Ramirez the 5th and the 12th when Taylor was landing more power punches and jabs?? Literally makes no sense. Sensibly Ramirez had 4 rounds. 2, 3, 4, 11.
                      These guys are blatantly displaying their bias. Taylor won this fight fair and was/is the better fighter.

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