Comments Thread For: Anderson Silva Shakes Head at White For Blocking De La Hoya vs. St-Pierre

[kushking]

You are clueless. Early UFC events in the 90's with no rules showed all the boxers that competed being taken down and beaten up by wrestlers. "If you don't know how to wrestle, you don't know how to fight" was the saying back then. It was so one sided on every single match that it stopped being a question more than 25 years ago. Now the game evolved and all these wrestlers know how to strike, but they are still no match for a boxer in a boxing ring.

This guy, GSP, is a wrestler with a karate background that has never boxed in his life, not even amateur. LOL At you getting worked up because Dana is stopping this freakshow of a fight between another wrestler and an actual boxer. We saw it with the youtuber already, how many times do you need to see it to realize is a pointless mismatch?

Nobody with a brain should care about this mismatches, if you really need to see boxers beating wrestlers in boxing to show off to UFC fans that "boxing won" then you have an inferiority complex towards UFC for their recent popularity. Completely different sports.

This Anderson dude is a joke who is going to be humilliated and knocked out by Chavez and he doesn't mind it because he has been humilliated and knocked out by upcoming fighters in the UFC for the last 10 years.

None of what you said is even relevant,the issue here is whether a UFC dictator scumbag pos like Dana Shyte can hold fighters to lifetime contracts years after they retire. These contracts are a disgrace to humanity,& that côcksvcker Whyte should be sued into bankruptcy by the ****** he owns(rich ****** but ****** none the less)

[Dakuwaqa]

No he annoys me.

He’s definitely a bit annoying. I find the Nottingham accent grating after a while. Same with Froch. Still better than Chael though. Even my gf was like ‘who this hell is this dude?’

[MicChecka]

It's called freedom. Before the seventies, Major League Baseball also was totalitarian, owning its players as if held in slavery; however, once it saw the light of day, and players were no longer its ******, MLB flourished, bringing in revenues never before seen. Why doesn't Dana White see the light and free his UFC ******? You tell me, MicChecka, why should Dana White exercise totalitarian state/slave owner control, over fighters who sign with the UFC. Especially when the fighters are not trying to compete in a rival MMA organization but rather in boxing. Is there any rational reason for this? Or is an insane man exercising dictatorial powers because MMA is throwaway entertainment not worthy of Constitutional protections? In addition, Dana White took the position that MMA fighters would always beat boxers. That hasn't held true despite almost all of the boxers who've engaged in MMA being either at the tail end of a career or else fully retired. Dana White's reluctance to set up competition between Terence Crawford and a UFC fighter makes me wonder if he ever believed that any UFC fighter could beat each and every boxer in the cage. He certainly isn't acting like he believes it now. And as for street fighting, by its very nature, outcomes are far more difficult to predict; however, as I see it, a good boxer/fighter, with KO power, is in a better position to win than a fighter of any other discipline. Why? Because of the need to strike first fastest and hit hardest, enough to make short work of the opponent. But that's only my opinion, and the best we can do on street fighting is time will tell.

My question was....why are boxing fans disappointed that this fight isn't happening? And you answered.....FREEDOM? GSP is still under contract with the UFC. That being said....he signed a contract. A contract has certain terms that need to be met. I don't know the details of the contract, but it seems he needs to be cleared by Dana White. What is the problem with that? Again, GSP signed a contract, he is bound by that contract. And PLEASE stop throwing the slavery term around. UFC pays their fighters. They are not wearing shackles or chains, they haven't been stolen from their homeland. Dana has to protect his fighters and the brand he works for. He knows his fighters can't compete with elite boxers. Why put their health at risk for money? They have no chance at beating any of the top fighters in boxing. And vice versa, most elite boxers couldn't compete against the top UFC fighters in the cage. Terence Crawford has no interest in fighting in the UFC. He has already stated the UFC fighters don't get paid enough for what they do. Crawford himself has never said he wanted to fight in the UFC or against a UFC fighter in boxing. That was all Bob Arum running his mouth, due to his inability to get Crawford a big name fight.

[MicChecka]

You are clueless. Early UFC events in the 90's with no rules showed all the boxers that competed being taken down and beaten up by wrestlers. "If you don't know how to wrestle, you don't know how to fight" was the saying back then. It was so one sided on every single match that it stopped being a question more than 25 years ago. Now the game evolved and all these wrestlers know how to strike, but they are still no match for a boxer in a boxing ring.

This guy, GSP, is a wrestler with a karate background that has never boxed in his life, not even amateur. LOL At you getting worked up because Dana is stopping this freakshow of a fight between another wrestler and an actual boxer. We saw it with the youtuber already, how many times do you need to see it to realize is a pointless mismatch?

Nobody with a brain should care about this mismatches, if you really need to see boxers beating wrestlers in boxing to show off to UFC fans that "boxing won" then you have an inferiority complex towards UFC for their recent popularity. Completely different sports.

This Anderson dude is a joke who is going to be humilliated and knocked out by Chavez and he doesn't mind it because he has been humilliated and knocked out by upcoming fighters in the UFC for the last 10 years.

This post hit the nail on the head. PERFECT POST.

[kushking]

My question was....why are boxing fans disappointed that this fight isn't happening? And you answered.....FREEDOM? GSP is still under contract with the UFC. That being said....he signed a contract. A contract has certain terms that need to be met. I don't know the details of the contract, but it seems he needs to be cleared by Dana White. What is the problem with that? Again, GSP signed a contract, he is bound by that contract. And PLEASE stop throwing the slavery term around. UFC pays their fighters. They are not wearing shackles or chains, they haven't been stolen from their homeland. Dana has to protect his fighters and the brand he works for. He knows his fighters can't compete with elite boxers. Why put their health at risk for money? They have no chance at beating any of the top fighters in boxing. And vice versa, most elite boxers couldn't compete against the top UFC fighters in the cage. Terence Crawford has no interest in fighting in the UFC. He has already stated the UFC fighters don't get paid enough for what they do. Crawford himself has never said he wanted to fight in the UFC or against a UFC fighter in boxing. That was all Bob Arum running his mouth, due to his inability to get Crawford a big name fight.

When a pos like Whyte makes anyone who wants to fight with UFC sign a lifetime talent binding contract that precludes them from ever making revenue outside ufc even after death. Thats slavery. Especially when he pays them less per revenue than every other sport despite UFC using gloves that should be banned that cause serious damage

[MicChecka]

When a pos like Whyte makes anyone who wants to fight with UFC sign a lifetime talent binding contract that precludes them from ever making revenue outside ufc even after death. Thats slavery. Especially when he pays them less per revenue than every other sport despite UFC using gloves that should be banned that cause serious damage

Didn't I see GSP in a couple of Marvel movies? Not to mention the Falcon and The Winter Soldier......
So Dana is not precluding him from making any money. Too much drama from you......

[kushking]

Didn't I see GSP in a couple of Marvel movies? Not to mention the Falcon and The Winter Soldier......
So Dana is not precluding him from making any money. Too much drama from you......

You don't mention that zuffa is entitled to over 75% of all earnings. Too much defending of slavery from you. You think its ok for a pos like Whyte to be able to decide who a fighter can work for for eternity (even after death Ufc is entitled to everything)

Ufc gets over 75% of all revenue & even after yrs of retirement they block fighters from making a living.

[hitmanjosh]

I said it once and I’ll say it again, he’s a dam slave owner Dana White let me just say the name so there’s no confusion. If he not careful and I no like most ‘B’ MF’ers he’s got all his security to protect him otherwise someone would have beaten the hell outta him by now!

[Rapscallion]

You are clueless. Early UFC events in the 90's with no rules showed all the boxers that competed being taken down and beaten up by wrestlers. "If you don't know how to wrestle, you don't know how to fight" was the saying back then. It was so one sided on every single match that it stopped being a question more than 25 years ago. Now the game evolved and all these wrestlers know how to strike, but they are still no match for a boxer in a boxing ring.

This guy, GSP, is a wrestler with a karate background that has never boxed in his life, not even amateur. LOL At you getting worked up because Dana is stopping this freakshow of a fight between another wrestler and an actual boxer. We saw it with the youtuber already, how many times do you need to see it to realize is a pointless mismatch?

Nobody with a brain should care about this mismatches, if you really need to see boxers beating wrestlers in boxing to show off to UFC fans that "boxing won" then you have an inferiority complex towards UFC for their recent popularity. Completely different sports.

This Anderson dude is a joke who is going to be humilliated and knocked out by Chavez and he doesn't mind it because he has been humilliated and knocked out by upcoming fighters in the UFC for the last 10 years.

Wrong. All Dana White has to do to make me a believer is to allow Crawford vs UFC fighter and Whyte vs Ngannou and see what happens. But he won't. So, it would be quite easy to pit boxer vs UFC MMA fighter, but Dana is stopping it. You tell me why. Do you think that it is because Dana White wants to prevent boxers from losing face? Or is it because he knows that he hasn't the fighter to defeat Crawford or Whyte (in the cage or the ring)? By the way, if you expect me to put any weight on what happened in the MMA scene in the nineties, then you are a fool. Pretty much everything that took place then was suspect (including the Gracie MMA introduction). P.S. I'm not getting worked up. I've seen enough street fights where boxing defeated MMA to believe anything other than what I've written. Look, I know that the UFC rules make it difficult for a non UFC fighter to win (I'm talking even former Pride MMA fighter Cro Cop); however, I stand by what I wrote: that a power punching skilled boxer can win in the cage (UFC rules included), and I'd love it if Dana White finally permits his UFC fighter to face Crawford (both UFC and boxing). Why won't White permit this to happen? All I can assume (based on his complete disdain for mankind) is that it is too risky for him and the UFC to permit a UFC fighter to fight (both MMA and boxing) a boxer. What else can I believe? That suddenly Dana White is concerned for the boxer's welfare? Once again, until Dana White permits his UFC champion to face boxers such as Crawford or Whyte, I'll never believe that the UFC fighters hold an edge let alone are dominant in a fight with a boxer such as Crawford (or Saul Alvarez, or Andre Ward, or Roberto Duran, or Sugar Ray Leonard). Just so you don't think that I am totally biased, I do now and have for decades readily admit that when Inoki fought Ali in June of '76 that not only did Inoki win, he kicked the crap out of Ali.

[TMLT87]

boxers such as Crawford or Whyte, I'll never believe that the UFC fighters hold an edge let alone are dominant in a fight with a boxer

So an ex-wrestler and a guy who was a kickboxer and MMA fighter before he was a boxer?