Can fury just dump the belts and fight aj?

[_Rexy_]

Of course it does.

Still a big fight. Would still crown the top fighter.

You'd like to think the fact that it's so difficult would motivate the sport to make the fight while they can. Doesn't happen like that though.

It's the second worst division in boxing. I'm not losing any sleep over it. (Third worst if you count Bridger, I do not.)

but yeah, it's still a big fight, but without it being "undisputed heavyweight championship" It's more of a huge domestic fight.

[moochi]

I'm interested in seeing the court ruling and actually knowing of its jurisdiction. Does it have effect outside of America? Is it just a low level ruling that can be appealed in a higher court etc?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Its not a court ruling and there’s no jurisdiction.

They signed a contract for the second fight. In the contract, there was a rematch clause.

Also in the signed contracts was an agreement to have an arbitrator rule on any contractual disputes.

Fury and Wilder had a contractual dispute over the rematch clause. So according to the contract, an arbitrator would rule if the rematch clause was still valid.

He ruled it was valid.

I'm interested in seeing the court ruling and actually knowing of its jurisdiction. Does it have effect outside of America? Is it just a low level ruling that can be appealed in a higher court etc?

[REDEEMER]

Its not a court ruling and there’s no jurisdiction.

They signed a contract for the second fight. In the contract, there was a rematch clause.

Also in the signed contracts was an agreement to have an arbitrator rule on any contractual disputes.

Fury and Wilder had a contractual dispute over the rematch clause. So according to the contract, an arbitrator would rule if the rematch clause was still valid.

He ruled it was valid.

The Rematch clause was under the WBC title fight though in their sanctioning body for a rematch in a title fight . If Fury dumps the the belt that doesn’t nullify rematch stipulation ? I mean Wilder is basically just a WBC fighter .

When Ruiz tried getting out of the AJ rematch the on,y way was to relinquish his belts though there was no arbitration ruling ?

[ShaneMosleySr]

The rematch clause has nothing to do with the belts.

The relinquishing of the belts had to do with the fact that Ruiz couldn’t fight anyone else except AJ for an extended period of time if he decided to skip that fight.

The Rematch clause was under the WBC title fight though in their sanctioning body for a rematch in a title fight . If Fury dumps the the belt that doesn’t nullify rematch stipulation ?

When Ruiz tried getting out of the AJ rematch the on,y way was to relinquish his belts though there was no arbitration ruling ?

[QballLobo]

The arbitration is not tied to a belt, it's tied to a rematch clause. Fury fights Wilder next or retires. He can't continued his boxing career with this clause in place because anyone involved in helping Fury fight someone else (other than WIlder) going forward will be sued like crazy.

It says they have until 09/15 so it’s not like Fury can’t ever fight anyone again. It’s unclear what happens if they can’t come to an agreement before then.

[Inspired]

what happens if espn/fox decide 'we're putting up 5m for wilder' and wilder says no. he turns it down and they end up making offers back and forth, leaving no time for the fight, what happens then?

[ShaneMosleySr]

I guarantee there’s a penalty in the contract for ignoring the rematch clause.

It says they have until 09/15 so it’s not like Fury can’t ever fight anyone again. It’s unclear what happens if they can’t come to an agreement before then.

[Toffee]

It says they have until 09/15 so it’s not like Fury can’t ever fight anyone again. It’s unclear what happens if they can’t come to an agreement before then.

If Fury just refuses to fight then he'll be in breach of contract and Wilder will pursue him for damages.

The contract will deal with 'not coming to an agreement'. Although I don't know what happens if the fight can't generate the kind of fees that are listed in the contract.

[_Rexy_]

I'm interested in seeing the court ruling and actually knowing of its jurisdiction. Does it have effect outside of America? Is it just a low level ruling that can be appealed in a higher court etc?

From what I've seen, Lewis v Rahman was used as precedent.