Can fury just dump the belts and fight aj?

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  • saopaulo
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    #1

    Can fury just dump the belts and fight aj?

    I would like to hear a neutral side on this not team wilder.
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    #2
    The arbitration is not tied to a belt, it's tied to a rematch clause. Fury fights Wilder next or retires. He can't continued his boxing career with this clause in place because anyone involved in helping Fury fight someone else (other than WIlder) going forward will be sued like crazy.

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #3
      What do you mean dump? the contracts always included the belt. If Fury were to vacate the belt he would get sued again. Lol. Everything is based on money and the type of fight being marketed

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      • deathofaclown
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        #4
        I don’t think so

        It was initially thought to be the case but it seems unlikely.

        I think if it was that simple, he would do it. He stands to make crazy money from the AJ fight. I think the belt would be gone in a heartbeat if that was a solution.

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        • Toffee
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          #5
          Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
          What do you mean dump? the contracts always included the belt. If Fury were to vacate the belt he would get sued again. Lol. Everything is based on money and the type of fight being marketed
          I went through this months ago with someone. Might have been you.

          A contract can place certain obligations on Fury, but it can't obligate him to be the WBC Champion. It's not necessarily in his control.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #6
            Originally posted by Toffee

            I went through this months ago with someone. Might have been you.

            A contract can place certain obligations on Fury, but it can't obligate him to be the WBC Champion. It's not necessarily in his control.
            What do you mean… both parties (promotional teams) were fighting/defending the WBC belt. That’s what was agreed upon. Top Rank and PBC are marketing a Championship fight. This is basic common sense. The belt goes back and forth in their series, that’s the premise having made the Rematch. What does AJ get fighting Fury without a belt? Lol. Wouldn’t he rather offer the fight to Wilder for Undisputed? This is the WBC we are talking about. The WBC would MOST LIKELY make Wilder the WBC champion if Fury were to vacate and still get sued. Which means the fight goes back to AJ vs Wilder for Undisputed. Top Rank would be in a lose situation. The best thing Top Rank could do is have Fury vs Ruiz having been phased out

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            • Toffee
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              #7
              Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

              What do you mean… both parties (promotional teams) were fighting/defending the WBC belt. That’s what was agreed upon. Top Rank and PBC are marketing a Championship fight. This is basic common sense. The belt goes back and forth in their series, that’s the premise having made the Rematch. What does AJ get fighting Fury without a belt? Lol. Wouldn’t he rather offer the fight to Wilder for Undisputed? This is the WBC we are talking about. The WBC would MOST LIKELY make Wilder the WBC champion if Fury were to vacate and still get sued. Which means the fight goes back to AJ vs Wilder for Undisputed. Top Rank would be in a lose situation. The best thing Top Rank could do is have Fury vs Ruiz having been phased out
              How many times have belts been dropped between the original fight and a rematch? Happens all the time.

              The reason is that the contract is between the fighters. The belt is an honour conferred by an organisation.

              The rematch clause cannot stipulate that they are putting the belt up for the winner. The parties to the fight can't offer that. They don't own it in the first place to be able to offer it.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #8
                Kinda defeats the purpose and marketability of an undisputed fight if Fury dumps the WBC and Joshua dumps the WBO, no?

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                  #9
                  No. He’s contractually obligated to fight Wilder. It has nothing to do with the WBC.

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                  • Toffee
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_
                    Kinda defeats the purpose and marketability of an undisputed fight if Fury dumps the WBC and Joshua dumps the WBO, no?
                    Of course it does.

                    Still a big fight. Would still crown the top fighter.

                    You'd like to think the fact that it's so difficult would motivate the sport to make the fight while they can. Doesn't happen like that though.

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