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A closer look at Manny Pacquiao's resume at 147
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Pac will go down as one of tthebgreatest ww of all time. His resume at ww is stronger than floyds.
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One of the biggest troll threads I’ve seen in quite some time. His 147 resume alone is better than any of the top five welters fighting today.
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He did drain Cotto for some reason. Cotto is his only WW fight where he made the fighter go down at a catchweight. He did that for literally no one else at welter. And Cotto got knocked out but he injured Pacquiao's ear drum or something. And that Cotto, I felt came off a loss to Clottey. It was a narrow loss, but I thought Clottey edged him. Cotto was rebuilding still, from his prior loss a year prior, vs Margarito. And Roach/Pacquiao wanted him to work a bit harder to make weight, so they said 145lbs. When you're in camp trying to make a weight class which you are already about to leave, it's tough. You basically focus on making weight and very little of it would be actual training/game plans.
DLH was badly drained, even weighed less than Pacquiao in the ring. I believe their in-ring weights were 148 and 147. But let's face it, he drained himself. He was the A-side, he could have fought at 154 for his last fight of his career, but he chose 147. He looked far from spectacular vs Forbes at 150lbs. He was getting tagged there, but Forbes didn't have any power at 150lbs. I'm sure he regrets fighting at 147lbs to end his career. Usually fighters end their career at a higher weight. DLH was a very good 154lb fighter too.
All in all though, Pacquiao's career will not be looked at for what he did at 147. It will be looked at across 8 weight classes.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
All in all though, Pacquiao's career will not be looked at for what he did at 147. It will be looked at across 8 weight classes.
Seems like your just trying to tear him downLast edited by hugh grant; 05-15-2021, 04:20 PM.
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Originally posted by BigDramaShow! View Post
Let's take a look at Manny fought at 140-147
Dela Hoya at the tail end of his Career
Hatton who was already KTFO by Mayweather
Weight drained and dehydrated Miguel Cotto with catchweight
Weight drained and dehydrated Margarito with catchweight
A shot shane mosley
Got KTFO by 40yr old Marquez
Bradley thrice
Clottey (Yildirim 2.0)
Rios (Yildirim 3.0)
Algeiri (Yildirim 4.0)
Vargas
Matthyse(Fielding 2.0)
Broner
All in all when you take a closer look Manny's resume is not very impressive. He did not fought a Golovkin level opponent at 147.
- hatton was undefeated at 140 and lineal ring champ and top ten p4p when pac fought him.
- miguel cotto weighed 146 against clottey so only going down 1 more pound from his previous fight. he made weight easy didnt need to rest on a chair like canelo did against floyd (who was clearly more weakened from his weigh in). cotto got obliterated. those two extra pounds wouldn't have made a difference. get a clue pls.
- margarito rehydrated 15 lbs against pacquiao who was 148 on fight night. margarito looked strong at weigh in and didn't need to sit down like canelo had to (who was far more weight drained against floyd).
- mosley was ranked in the top 3 welterweight. would go on to have a competitive fight against canelo making canelo bleed from a cut.
- marquez was on so much steroids that night thanks to his personal steroid chemist heredia.wasnt dragged up 2 weight classes, out of shape, drinking pee.
- bradley #3 p4p when pac beat him. ranked #2 welterweight according to tbrb when pac beat him the 3rd time.
- clottey ranked #5 welterweight. former ibf champ (only stripped of title). yildirim was not ranked top ten at 168, never won a title, ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahaha. seriously get a clue pls.
- rios a former 2 weight world champion. pac was coming off a ko loss and his longest layoff at that point in his career.so a tune up. again, yildirim never won a world title, never ranked top ten in any division.
- algieri was undefeated, a world champion, coming off a big upset win against providnikov.yildirim never won a world title, was not undefeated (ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahahaha), never ranked top ten.
- vargas only one loss to bradley who was still top ten p4p, world champ, coming off a impressive ko against undefeated saddam ali. the same ali who would retire cotto.
- matthysse was 2 weight world champ, never ko'ed in 1 like fielding, high ko percentage, far more experienced at top level than fielding.ranked top ten and wba champ.
- broner a former 4 weight champ.
- thurman undefeated world champ, top 3 in division, best resume than spence and crawford at the time. still better welterweight resume than crawford.pac was 40 years old. thurman 10 years younger.
- pac robbed against horn who was ranked top ten in the division at the time.
get a clue u ****** punk. pacs welterweight resume alone is better than any current top ten p4p'er resume.Last edited by Divine Hammer; 05-15-2021, 06:01 PM.blowblow
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
You serious? A former flyweight champ being oldest W w champ and only recognised 4 time WW champ!
Seems like your just trying to tear him down
Reread the line you quoted and reread your answer to that. I'll give you a second chance before I label you an illiterate ****ing brit. Which is rare. A Brit illiterate in one's own language. You fools pride yourself in knowing English better than any country and ****** Americans about botching your language.
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Originally posted by strykr619 View PostA lot of hindsite here. I remember ODLH being the FAVORITE PRE FIGHT. Fight experts were calling out Oscar for a cherry pick.
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
- pacquiao had only 1 fight at lightweight when oscar called him out at 147. pac was big underdog.oscar had a fight at 154. so pac was moving up higher than oscar was moving down.
- hatton was undefeated at 140 and lineal ring champ and top ten p4p when pac fought him.
- miguel cotto weighed 146 against clottey so only going down 1 more pound from his previous fight. he made weight easy didnt need to rest on a chair like canelo did against floyd (who was clearly more weakened from his weigh in). cotto got obliterated. those two extra pounds wouldn't have made a difference. get a clue pls.
- margarito rehydrated 15 lbs against pacquiao who was 148 on fight night. margarito looked strong at weigh in and didn't need to sit down like canelo had to (who was far more weight drained against floyd).
- mosley was ranked in the top 3 welterweight. would go on to have a competitive fight against canelo making canelo bleed from a cut.
- marquez was on so much steroids that night thanks to his personal steroid chemist heredia.wasnt dragged up 2 weight classes, out of shape, drinking pee.
- bradley #3 p4p when pac beat him. ranked #2 welterweight according to tbrb when pac beat him the 3rd time.
- clottey ranked #5 welterweight. former ibf champ (only stripped of title). yildirim was not ranked top ten at 168, never won a title, ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahaha. seriously get a clue pls.
- rios a former 2 weight world champion. pac was coming off a ko loss and his longest layoff at that point in his career.so a tune up. again, yildirim never won a world title, never ranked top ten in any division.
- algieri was undefeated, a world champion, coming off a big upset win against providnikov.yildirim never won a world title, was not undefeated (ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahahaha), never ranked top ten.
- vargas only one loss to bradley who was still top ten p4p, world champ, coming off a impressive ko against undefeated saddam ali. the same ali who would retire cotto.
- matthysse was 2 weight world champ, never ko'ed in 1 like fielding, high ko percentage, far more experienced at top level than fielding.ranked top ten and wba champ.
- broner a former 4 weight champ.
- thurman undefeated world champ, top 3 in division, best resume than spence and crawford at the time. still better welterweight resume than crawford.pac was 40 years old. thurman 10 years younger.
- pac robbed against horn who was ranked top ten in the division at the time.
get a clue u ****** punk. pacs welterweight resume alone is better than any current top ten p4p'er resume.
Also the cut he “made him bleed” from was a headbutt.
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