Present-day Canelo would CRUSH any version of Floyd!

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  • W1LL
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    #41
    Originally posted by The plunger man
    telling you how it us dummy....if you cannot recognise weight classes and what a fair fight is then u have **** for Brains.
    Jog on muppet
    So Floyd being open to the idea of fighting BJS, if he was to beat Canelo, was fine. But fighting Canelo is a weight mismatch? How does that make sense, you muppet?

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    • HENNY
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      #42
      Ridiculous thread. Canelo's prime weight doesn't even remotely overlap Floyd best weight. What weight would they fight at? Floyd best was below 140, and Canelo's best is at 168. They meet in the middle at 154 and a 2021 Canelo wouldn't even be able to stand up at the weigh in.

      Shout out to all the people that mentioned the weight class difference. Thanks for being smart

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        #43
        Originally posted by HENNY
        Ridiculous thread. Canelo's prime weight doesn't even remotely overlap Floyd best weight. What weight would they fight at? Floyd best was below 140, and Canelo's best is at 168. They meet in the middle at 154 and a 2021 Canelo wouldn't even be able to stand up at the weigh in.

        Shout out to all the people that mentioned the weight class difference. Thanks for being smart
        that's not being smart. that's another lame excuses.. he said he wants to fight BJS the same wieght as Canelo.. how come you/they said canelo was too heavy for him while BJS is not? like the poster said before you.. any thoughts?
        Last edited by blowblow; 05-13-2021, 02:36 PM.

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        • War Room
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          #44
          Originally posted by W1LL
          Deal with it!

          Canelo absolutely ripped at 180lb+ on fight night, would CRUSH 150 lb, catchweight king Floyd, any version of him. He'd tear all the muscles out of his puny, IV-riddled arms, smash his ribs in 10-times worse than Castillo ever did... then cave his skull in like he just did BJ Saunders! No chance for the 5'5" Floyd when Canelo is knocking out Heavyweights in sparring. And yes, Floyd may have a win over the Big Show, but that was Wrestling, not Boxing!
          Canelo is slower now and pot shotting instead of combo's. Probably 118-109 at any weight. DEAL WITH IT.

          WIn over Saunders, now Canelo beats all versions of Floyd, Ray Robinson, RJJ, Mike Tyson, Fury, everybody even Ali!

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            #45
            Originally posted by blowblow

            that's not being smart. that's another lame excuses.. he said he wants to fight BJS the same wieght as Canelo.. how come you/they said canelo was too heavy for him while BJS is not? like the poster said before you.. any thoughts?
            Poster said "Present day Canelo" vs "any version of Floyd". This version of Floyd would get wiped by Canelo. But Floyd's best version is 140 and below. So that version of Floyd is too small for this current version. If they were in their prime at the same time (168 Canelo and say 140 Floyd) and they signed for a fight, then it would be at catchweight. 28 pound difference, so meet half way at 154. Now, do you think that this version of Canelo could make 154? Probably not.

            It's an "any version vs any version" type question. One fighters best version is 4-5 weight classes above the other fighters. So, it's not even remotely doable.

            200 pound version Mike Tyson could beat 175 Canelo, but that doesn't prove Mikes the better fighter. Canelo is more skilled overall, but one fighter is just bigger. This post makes no sense due to the respective prime weight classes of both fighters

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            • War Room
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              #46
              Originally posted by HENNY
              Canelo is more skilled overall
              How though?

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              • SUBZER0ED
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                #47
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                Floyd fans are so defensive…

                And his haters are so relentless.
                Canelo fans making up mythical stories about how his present version would beat any version of Mayweather- hoping that such a fantasy somehow erases his actual loss to him.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by War Room

                  How though?
                  Tyson lost to lesser opponents from a skill perspective than Canelo. In no world does any 168 fighter that's identical to Buster Douglas beats Canelo.

                  Canelo could fight backing up better as well. Tyson also has shown tendencies to lose his mind when getting bullied (biting, pulling arms, etc), and Canelo is more efficient in the same scenario. He was getting pushed back by GGG in the first fight and he was using efficient defense and picking his shots. Tysons career was derailed quite a bit though, so I'm sure we never saw him peak. But, based on body of work, I would say Canelo has more overall skill from a boxing and mental perspective

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by blowblow

                    that's not being smart. that's another lame excuses.. he said he wants to fight BJS the same wieght as Canelo.. how come you/they said canelo was too heavy for him while BJS is not? like the poster said before you.. any thoughts?
                    Because Floyd well knows that Saunders isn't as good as Canelo which is obvious from the results of the fight. He maybe able to fight Saunders with a weight handicap but not Canelo. Get Canelo to move down two weigh divisions instead of Floyd jumping up. Like a recent poster explained they don't have overlapping weight divisions where both guys are prime. Then factor in the age difference. Then factor in that Canelo has a hard head and Floyd has brittle hands. The fairest thing would to think Canelo down to Floyd's size. That mean his skeletal structure also. Then it's skill against skill and Floyd beats him every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
                    Floyd does everything better than Canelo expect punching power. He's an expert at nullifying that.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by HENNY

                      Tyson lost to lesser opponents from a skill perspective than Canelo. In no world does any 168 fighter that's identical to Buster Douglas beats Canelo.

                      Canelo could fight backing up better as well. Tyson also has shown tendencies to lose his mind when getting bullied (biting, pulling arms, etc), and Canelo is more efficient in the same scenario. He was getting pushed back by GGG in the first fight and he was using efficient defense and picking his shots. Tysons career was derailed quite a bit though, so I'm sure we never saw him peak. But, based on body of work, I would say Canelo has more overall skill from a boxing and mental perspective
                      Canelo lost that first Golovkin fight clearly. He had a bad game plan. Going to the ropes was foolish.

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