Will PLANT / PBC accept Undisputed in September?

[-DSG-]

Canelo can go fight GGG, which would be even a bigger fight than Plant.

But both sides will make offers, let's see what happens. It shouldn't just be FOX or bust here.

Even if it is on FOX PPV, DAZN can have the global rights to the event.

Fight will happen in September.

It will have to be a 2 fight deal at least pbc won't do a one off

[Ray*]

-Nope, you are already wrong from the first sentence you stated. You are referring to when Andrade had a fight signed with Jermell on SHO, but that's not what I'm referring to. Andrade, who has gone ON RECORD to state he had a SHO offer where he would fight JERMALL. He said on Mannix's podcast that why would he go to SHO just for Charlo and if SHO would still keep paying him to fight the likes of Keeler. And you know what? Fair play to him, take whatever offer that makes you happy. But what I said is not a lie.

-Tank's team made an offer for Farmer to fight him. Once again, that is NOT a lie, that is fully on record.

-Plant stated they sent an offer out to Smith and Hearn even acknowledged in an interview Plant's team reached out to him and said "it wasn't bad" and quickly changed topics. Mannix then said talks were had but no offers were made. Plant told him he was wrong and an offer WAS made and Mannix responded with, "all good there is interest in the fight but they are waiting on the Canelo situation." This was back in early 2020 before the pandemic.

-Wilder turned down a DAZN deal, correct. That has nothing to do with what I said.

Anything else?

Show us the offer that Boo Boo had to fight Jermell over the last 24 months, who said anything about lies in regards Tank offer to Farmer? They offered him a counter lower ball offer. Knowing they would take that offer. Next? Show me Plant offer to Smith... Again your “Counters” are laughable.

[champion4ever]

Once in a lifetime chance for Plant to pick the highest bidder.
And that would be fighting on the DAZN platform. Where else could he get that chance?

His alternative at PBC is Benavidez. I'd love to see that fight. Get it over with.
Benavidez vs Canelo next.

Well let me ask you this question then. What good, service or use would Caleb Plant be to Al Haymon if he loses his IBF title belt on DAZN to Canelo? Plant would then be a man without a platform. Al Haymon would no longer have any use or service for him and neither would Matchroom USA's Eddie Hearn. That's why the fight must be on the PBC in order for Al Haymon to attain some type of leverage on Canelo in the event that Caleb Plant loses. If he doesn't then Canelo won't become the Undisputed Super middleweight champion because the fight won't happen.

[rickJen]

Well let me ask you this question then. What good, service or use would Caleb Plant be to Al Haymon if he loses his IBF title belt on DAZN to Canelo? Plant would then be a man without a platform. Al Haymon would no longer have any use or service for him and neither would Matchroom USA's Eddie Hearn. That's why the fight must be on the PBC in order for Al Haymon to attain some type leverage on Canelo in the event that Caleb Plant loses. If he doesn't then Canelo won't become the Undisputed middleweight champion because the fight won't happen.

This is all up to Canelo doe. He can be forced to fight Andrade,
or make the Glovkin trilogy, so Plant better be careful in handling this.
I'd rather see Canelo fight at PBC, as you've seen in my thread.
But with the condition that he takes Andrade with him for Charlo.
Canelo fights the winner.
But that is far from happening (Charlo fighting Andrade.)

[Thuglife Nelo]

I like how Haymonites admit that PBC “stars” don’t have control for who they fight. Who turns down a Canelo fight, generational wealth, or for a chance at Undisputed? A PBC fighter that’s who!

[KTFOKING]

It will have to be a 2 fight deal at least pbc won't do a one off

Two fight deal for this? I don't know about that. But if DAZN makes a better offer than Plant shouldn't just stick to, "it has to be on FOX or no PPV" as Canelo is the top dog here.

[KTFOKING]

Show us the offer that Boo Boo had to fight Jermell over the last 24 months, who said anything about lies in regards Tank offer to Farmer? They offered him a counter lower ball offer. Knowing they would take that offer. Next? Show me Plant offer to Smith... Again your “Counters” are laughable.

"Show us the offer" ?? Are you kidding me? Andrade went on Mannix's podcast and brought the SHO offer up himself. Espinoza went on Mannix's podcast just recently and talked about the offer to Andrade himself. This isn't something new, where have you been? When Andrade was a free agent, SHO made him an offer and he re-signed with Matchroom...Well within his right.

They offered Farmer a low ball offer? 2M for Farmer is a low ball offer? Okay, if you say so, but glad you agree that an offer was sent there.

How am I going to show you an offer was sent to Smith? But here is Plant telling Mannix an offer was sent:

Mannix kept saying only conversations were taking place and Plant told him no, an offer was made. Hearn acknowledged Plant's team reached out to them but clearly they were just waiting for the Canelo fight.....Again, well within their rights.

Did you notice not one time I said an offer should have been accepted by any of these fighters? Just pointed out the offers being made and turned down...As often times happens as promoters want things on their terms. But don't just make this a one way street, this is how it always has been and how it will always be.

When Moretti was asked if he would send Berlanga to DAZN to fight Jacobs, this was his response:

When Lomachenko vs Campbell was made, TR was hellbent in saying there is no way they are sending Lomachenko to DAZN and they agreed to put the fight on ESPN or ESPN+ and made it a Sky Sports PPV in the UK.

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And this offer was when Andrade was a free agent....Before he re-signed with Matchroom/DAZN on January 23, 2020....So within 24 months.

[Ray*]

"Show us the offer" ?? Are you kidding me? Andrade went on Mannix's podcast and brought the SHO offer up himself. Espinoza went on Mannix's podcast just recently and talked about the offer to Andrade himself. This isn't something new, where have you been? When Andrade was a free agent, SHO made him an offer and he re-signed with Matchroom...Well within his right.

They offered Farmer a low ball offer? 2M for Farmer is a low ball offer? Okay, if you say so, but glad you agree that an offer was sent there.

How am I going to show you an offer was sent to Smith? But here is Plant telling Mannix an offer was sent:

Mannix kept saying only conversations were taking place and Plant told him no, an offer was made. Hearn acknowledged Plant's team reached out to them but clearly they were just waiting for the Canelo fight.....Again, well within their rights.

Did you notice not one time I said an offer should have been accepted by any of these fighters? Just pointed out the offers being made and turned down...As often times happens as promoters want things on their terms. But don't just make this a one way street, this is how it always has been and how it will always be.

When Moretti was asked if he would send Berlanga to DAZN to fight Jacobs, this was his response:

When Lomachenko vs Campbell was made, TR was hellbent in saying there is no way they are sending Lomachenko to DAZN and they agreed to put the fight on ESPN or ESPN+ and made it a Sky Sports PPV in the UK.

Edit:

And this offer was when Andrade was a free agent....Before he re-signed with Matchroom/DAZN on January 23, 2020....So within 24 months.

So Boo boo wasn’t offered a Charlo fight like you claimed? He was a free agent and he re-signed to Matchroom/DAZN instead of an offer that could have lead to a Charlo fight… Thank you..

Yes Tank was offered 5m, lowball offer in return for 2m to show face after getting criticised for turning down 5m…but it was “Sent doe” that’s good enough

What has Carl got to do with this? Am confused… Where is the Plant offer? The same offer that he claimed he sent to Benavidez that both smith and Benavidez both laughed about!

[KTFOKING]

So Boo boo wasn’t offered a Charlo fight like you claimed? He was a free agent and he re-signed to Matchroom/DAZN instead of an offer that could have lead to a Charlo fight… Thank you..

Yes Tank was offered 5m, lowball offer in return for 2m to show face after getting criticised for turning down 5m…

What has Carl got to do with this? Am confused… Where is the Plant offer? The same offer that he claimed he sent to Benavidez that both smith and Benavidez both laughed about!

Huh? He had a multi-fight deal with SHO with a fight with Charlo offered...You know, just how the DAZN deal for Wilder was? Where he fought Breazeale first and then it would have been Joshua. And haven't confirmed, but have read he was even offered a one fight deal.....He re-signed AFTER those offers btw, that's how free agency works. You get all your offers and then choose where you want to sign...And he chose DAZN. He said what would SHO do for him if he was lose? Would they still pay him 7 figures to fight the likes of Keeler?

I said Farmer was offered 2M, not Tank. You keep saying lowball offer, what was DAZN offering Farmer? The 5M offer from DAZN was for what Tank was going to get, not the other way around.

Where is the offer? Do you want me to find the offer in writing to what was offered to Smith? The hell are you even doing right now? Why are you trying to so hard right here? Are you going to argue against every single offer and have an excuse for it? Plant said an offer WAS made, period. Mannix said that the Smith team would be interested in the fight but are looking for Canelo right now. That was in February 2020 and he waited it out and ended up getting Canelo about a year later. Which hey, it worked out for him.

Benavidez laughed at it? What offer was that? Only thing I remember there is Benavidez's promoter saying the fight shouldn't happen now but until it is a big PPV fight. Anyways, that is relevant here in what regard?

[Ray*]

Huh? He had a multi-fight deal with SHO with a fight with Charlo offered...You know, just how the DAZN deal for Wilder was? Where he fought Breazeale first and then it would have been Joshua. And haven't confirmed, but have read he was even offered a one fight deal.....He re-signed AFTER those offers btw, that's how free agency works. You get all your offers and then choose where you want to sign...And he chose DAZN. He said what would SHO do for him if he was lose? Would they still pay him 7 figures to fight the likes of Keeler?

I said Farmer was offered 2M, not Tank. You keep saying lowball offer, what was DAZN offering Farmer? The 5M offer from DAZN was for what Tank was going to get, not the other way around.

Where is the offer? Do you want me to find the offer in writing to what was offered to Smith? The hell are you even doing right now? Why are you trying to so hard right here? Are you going to argue against every single offer and have an excuse for it? Plant said an offer WAS made, period. Mannix said that the Smith team would be interested in the fight but are looking for Canelo right now. That was in February 2020 and he waited it out and ended up getting Canelo about a year later. Which hey, it worked out for him.

Benavidez laughed at it? What offer was that? Only thing I remember there is Benavidez's promoter saying the fight shouldn't happen now but until it is a big PPV fight. Anyways, that is relevant here in what regard?

Am not going through your BS. Fact is Plant isn’t going to fight Canelo. Don’t get your hopes up. PBC would turn the fight down like they did all those offers that I listed.

Your “Counters” made zero sense. And going back and forth in regards is a waste of my time with you.