Double Standards and Implicit Bias in Boxing

[The Big Dunn]

Danny Garcia did duck the **** out of Postol at 140

With all due respect you are now doing the same thing you ranted about.

Danny beat Matthysse at a time when Matthysse was the 2nd most slurped on non American power puncher after manny. To minimize that win in hindsight is as bad as what people do to Crawford’s wins I discussed in my previous post.

[TernceBudCharlo]

With all due respect you are now doing the same thing you ranted about.

Danny beat Matthysse at a time when Matthysse was the 2nd most slurped on non American power puncher after manny. To minimize that win in hindsight is as bad as what people do to Crawford’s wins I discussed in my previous post.

I aint say it wasn't a good win, but Bud beat multiple names like that at 140. Of all styles not just punchers. I don't care about the public's fascination with power punchers, I'm more impressed with beating a good skilled boxer. Matthyse hit hard but he was basic. This was proven when Garcia really should have lost to Herrera and Peterson at 140, 2 guys with better fundamentals than Matthyse. Both did better against Danny than Lucas. Herrera embarrassed Garcia all night with that jab, with Postol it would have been much worse. Who did Bud ever get in close fights with like that at 140? He beat plenty of guys better than them 2.

Danny Garcia isn't a bad fighter but I don't believe his run at 140 was anywhere near as good as Terence Crawford.

[TernceBudCharlo]

I think you make some very fair points. Too often we judge a fighters resume based on where I guy is rather than where he was when they fought.

To knock the Postol or Indongo wins for Crawford after the fact is just BS.

Thanks, I don't even care if they knock it but I'm saying you gotta be consistent. Can't knock Postol and Indongo but hype up BJS and Callum Smith.

[just the facts]

Really? Like who? After Mauricio Herrera took him to school I don't think anyone at 140 was afraid of Danny Garcia, but Danny Garcia sure was afraid of 140.

Danny Garcia knew he couldn't be a real champ at 140 or 147, so he just decided to sell his 0 to the highest bidder. Thurman was more money than Postol so he moved up to 147 and took his loss there.

I realise it fits your agenda, but too think Garcia moved up to 147 to avoid Postol is just plain ****** and false. He moved up because he out grew the division. Did Terrance Crawford move up from lightweight because he was ducking Omar Figuroa? No, he outgrew the division.

Garcia's first fight at 147 was Malginatti. At that time, how many boxing experts would have said Postol was a tougher fight than Malginatti? That's right, none of them.

[TernceBudCharlo]

I realise it fits your agenda, but too think Garcia moved up to 147 to avoid Postol is just plain ****** and false. He moved up because he out grew the division. Did Terrance Crawford move up from lightweight because he was ducking Omar Figuroa? No, he outgrew the division.

Garcia's first fight at 147 was Malginatti. At that time, how many boxing experts would have said Postol was a tougher fight than Malginatti? That's right, none of them.

I don't buy that. The bigger money fights were at 147.

[just the facts]

I don't buy that. The bigger money fights were at 147.

Okay.................now did Terrance Crawford move up from lightweight because he was afraid of Omar Figuroa?

[TernceBudCharlo]

Okay.................now did Terrance Crawford move up from lightweight because he was afraid of Omar Figuroa?

You do remember that Postol was Danny's mandatory right?? I don't think anyone was talking about Crawford fighting Figueroa even though he had an interim belt or something

[just the facts]

You do remember that Postol was Danny's mandatory right?? I don't think anyone was talking about Crawford fighting Figueroa even though he had an interim belt or something

You do remember that Garcia has struggled to make 140 for a couple of years right? I don't think anyone was talking about Garcia fighting Postol.

Nothing interim about the WBC belt Figuroa had. At the time both were with Top Rank yet the fight didn't get made.

So when Garcia moves up to fight better fighters for more money, he's ducking. But when Crawford moves up its not? Sounds like that double standard you're whinning about.

[TernceBudCharlo]

You do remember that Garcia has struggled to make 140 for a couple of years right? I don't think anyone was talking about Garcia fighting Postol.

Nothing interim about the WBC belt Figuroa had. At the time both were with Top Rank yet the fight didn't get made.

So when Garcia moves up to fight better fighters for more money, he's ducking. But when Crawford moves up its not? Sounds like that double standard you're whinning about.

Your comparison still doesn't work because Postol was his mandatory and everyone was talking about that fight. He chose to fight Peterson instead.

Nobody was hyping up a fight with Figureoa and Crawford.

[just the facts]

Your comparison still doesn't work because Postol was his mandatory and everyone was talking about that fight. He chose to fight Peterson instead.

Nobody was hyping up a fight with Figureoa and Crawford.

You're full of shyte. You're slowly but surely turning into another one of those posters willing to post anything (true or not) to justify their agenda. Garcia moved up because he outgrew 140 and bigger challenges for more money were waiting for him at 147. It had nothing to do with avoiding Postol and only an agenda driven idiot (you?) would think otherwise.