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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    Double Standards and Implicit Bias in Boxing

    How come all I hear is that "Billy Ho is undefeated, he must be so great, he is an UNDEFEATED CHAMPION, this makes him an amazing credential on a resume."

    Viktor Postol was an undefeated champion. Yuriorkis Gamboa was an undefeated champion. Julius Indongo was an undefeated champion. Jeff Horn was an undefeated champion. Jose Benavidez was undefeated.

    Yet all I hear is that these guys are bums.

    How come a win over the very flat footed and very basic David Lemieux make BJS miles ahead of these champions???

    You say that Terence Crawford resume is more like GGG resume than Canelo Alvarez. But what undefeated champions has GGG ever beaten???

    The systematic double standard in boxing must stop.
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    I think Billy Joe Saunders is very good. His win over Lemieux would be Canelo’s fourth best win.

    But I also think Viktor Postol is very good and arguably better than any of the PBC welterweights, hold Errol Spence. At the time Crawford beat him, he was above where Saunders is now.

    Gamboa was also a pound for pound type fighter. He was better than BJS is now.

    Julius Indongo fell apart after the loss to Crawford but many others have fallen apart after their loss to Canelo. He was about the same thing as BJS is now.

    Jose Benavidez is a very good but unproven fighter. But if he fought and beat a Sergey Lipinets type he’s about the same thing as BJS.

    GGG took Kell Brook’s 0.

    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
    How come all I hear is that "Billy Ho is undefeated, he must be so great, he is an UNDEFEATED CHAMPION, this makes him an amazing credential on a resume."

    Viktor Postol was an undefeated champion. Yuriorkis Gamboa was an undefeated champion. Julius Indongo was an undefeated champion. Jeff Horn was an undefeated champion. Jose Benavidez was undefeated.

    Yet all I hear is that these guys are bums.

    How come a win over the very flat footed and very basic David Lemieux make BJS miles ahead of these champions???

    You say that Terence Crawford resume is more like GGG resume than Canelo Alvarez. But what undefeated champions has GGG ever beaten???

    The systematic double standard in boxing must stop.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #3
      But you are not applying a double standard. The double standard is when you call Billy Hoe Saunders a great fighter but call Postol a bum.

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      • ShaneMosleySr
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        #4
        I completely agree.

        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        But you are not applying a double standard. The double standard is when you call Billy Hoe Saunders a great fighter but call Postol a bum.

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          #5
          TC has taken 9 - 0's in his career and 5 of them were championship fights....so... good point.

          Conversely

          Canelo has taken 8 - 0's and 4 of them were championship fights.

          Fury has taken 5 - 0's and 1 in a title fight.

          Teo has taken 1 and it wasn't a title fight.


          TC is king p4p 0 taker.

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          • blowblow
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            #6
            Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
            How come all I hear is that "Billy Ho is undefeated, he must be so great, he is an UNDEFEATED CHAMPION, this makes him an amazing credential on a resume."

            Viktor Postol was an undefeated champion. Yuriorkis Gamboa was an undefeated champion. Julius Indongo was an undefeated champion. Jeff Horn was an undefeated champion. Jose Benavidez was undefeated.

            Yet all I hear is that these guys are bums.

            How come a win over the very flat footed and very basic David Lemieux make BJS miles ahead of these champions???

            You say that Terence Crawford resume is more like GGG resume than Canelo Alvarez. But what undefeated champions has GGG ever beaten???

            The systematic double standard in boxing must stop.
            because bud never fought an elite.. he demanded like he should be the A side when he had fought no one. i'm politely saying that instead of saying he was a bum..

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            • just the facts
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              #7
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              I think Billy Joe Saunders is very good. His win over Lemieux would be Canelo’s fourth best win.

              But I also think Viktor Postol is very good and arguably better than any of the PBC welterweights, hold Errol Spence. At the time Crawford beat him, he was above where Saunders is now.

              Gamboa was also a pound for pound type fighter. He was better than BJS is now.

              Julius Indongo fell apart after the loss to Crawford but many others have fallen apart after their loss to Canelo. He was about the same thing as BJS is now.

              Jose Benavidez is a very good but unproven fighter. But if he fought and beat a Sergey Lipinets type he’s about the same thing as BJS.

              GGG took Kell Brook’s 0.


              You posted a lot of really ****** shyte on here but you actually believe that Pistol arguably better than any of the PBC welters? That's among the most truly ignorant posts I've ever read here. Arguably? Who making that argument? Nobody! Dumb even for you.

              So when is that Crawford/Pac fight happening?

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                Originally posted by just the facts

                You posted a lot of really ****** shyte on here but you actually believe that Pistol arguably better than any of the PBC welters? That's among the most truly ignorant posts I've ever read here. Arguably? Who making that argument? Nobody! Dumb even for you.

                So when is that Crawford/Pac fight happening?
                in your fcking wet dreams...

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                • just the facts
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by blowblow

                  in your fcking wet dreams...
                  So you think Postol is better than the PBC welters too?

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                  • buddyr
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                    #10
                    undefeated records are so overrated. ESPECIALLY IN THIS ERA!!!!

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