How exactly do you "activate a mandatory?"

[ShoulderRoll]

Pretty much this ^^^. If you are the number 1 guy and you sit there and do nothing then do we all want the number 2 guy to wait there until the number 1 guy finds his balls? I mean Porter himself said it *The people that are advising him*...

Why didn't the WBO call for a purse bid before demotingPorter?

[Get em up]

Maybe he declined the mandatory position but nothing has been reported as far as I know. To my knowledge he was ranked #1 but was never named mandatory by the WBO.

Who knows with these ABC orgs, they pretty much make it up as they go a long.

This is how it works a guy barely in the top 25 can be elevated to the top 10 without fighting in the last couple years just to make promotion sound better

[ShaneMosleySr]

Because Shane Porter refused to activate the mandatory, which would have started the purse bid process.

No one calls for purse bids when the number one contender openly refused to take his cut of the bid.

Why didn't the WBO call for a purse bid before demotingPorter?

[Ray*]

Why didn't the WBO call for a purse bid before demotingPorter?

Did he ask that he wants to be part of a purse bid? You cultists were saying for months that he shouldn’t go for a purse bid because he would only end up with 25% like he is giving you lot a cut of his money, and that Khan and Brook were paid more.

Even when Arum told everyone AFTER the Brook fight that he is losing money on Bud.

Any other promoter who has Porter’s best interest at heart would take it to purse bid and bring that fight to their side of the streets. What is Haymon doing for Porter in that regards? Nothing….

As porter said in his podcast he was listening to the people behind the scene, he would now give Bud a call.

Again the WBO did absolutely the right thing, if Ortiz doesn’t do anything too demote him… Put the number 3 guy on top…. simple, enough of the ******** politics.

[ShoulderRoll]

Did he ask that he wants to be part of a purse bid? You cultists were saying for months that he shouldn’t go for a purse bid because he would only end up with 25% like he is giving you lot a cut of his money, and that Khan and Brook were paid more.

Even when Arum told everyone AFTER the Brook fight that he is losing money on Bud.

Any other promoter who has Porter’s best interest at heart would take it to purse bid and bring that fight to their side of the streets. What is Haymon doing for Porter in that regards? Nothing….

As porter said in his podcast he was listening to the people behind the scene, he would now give Bud a call.

Again the WBO did absolutely the right thing, if Ortiz doesn’t do anything too demote him… Put the number 3 guy on top…. simple, enough of the ******** politics.

It seems to me that the proper thing is for the WBO itself to call for the mandatory, have a negotiation period, then if the fighters can't agree to a deal call for a purse bid.

If Porter isn't happy with his percentage at that point and pulls out THEN demote him.

But we all know the WBO is in Bob Arum's pocket and won't force Crawford to do anything without Arum's permission.

[kushking]

Because Shane Porter refused to activate the mandatory, which would have started the purse bid process.

No one calls for purse bids when the number one contender openly refused to take his cut of the bid.

How can he have refused to activate mandatory if he had already entered into negotiations & Bomac himself said he'd already activated mandatory? A fighter cannot activate anything unless the WBO board agrees to it,as stated in the rules a fighter can only petition (& WBO would've made Ortiz immediate mandatory if what you're saying is true)

How do you explain the FACT that countless other fighters are designated mandatory by the WBO as soon as 9 mos are up? How do you explain the FACT that bomac said porter activated mandatory & that they were negotiating?(you're contradicting yourself)

If Porter really lost his mando as you said,Ortiz would've immediately been announced as mandatory in his place, neither one has been designated mandatory,yet according to you & ray its all Porters fault for not filling out that form & immediately becoming mando(what y'all are saying is that Ortiz did what Porter didn't,then why hasn't anything been announced as required? Why hasn't a purse bid been ordered?)

You're making no sense whatsoever. You can't have it both ways. You choose to ignore the FACT Bomack said Porter activated his mando,& the FACT that hes been negotiating with Bud behind closed doors Because they're friends. If Porter didn't activate anything Bud wouldn't have been negotiations w the guy hes made clear he doesn't want to fight(Bob has disrespected him publicly by acting like hes a bum who don't deserve jack sh)

Btw Andrade was ordered 2 back to back mandos because he owed them.

[kushking]

Did he ask that he wants to be part of a purse bid? You cultists were saying for months that he shouldn’t go for a purse bid because he would only end up with 25% like he is giving you lot a cut of his money, and that Khan and Brook were paid more.

Even when Arum told everyone AFTER the Brook fight that he is losing money on Bud.

Any other promoter who has Porter’s best interest at heart would take it to purse bid and bring that fight to their side of the streets. What is Haymon doing for Porter in that regards? Nothing….

As porter said in his podcast he was listening to the people behind the scene, he would now give Bud a call.

Again the WBO did absolutely the right thing, if Ortiz doesn’t do anything too demote him… Put the number 3 guy on top…. simple, enough of the ******** politics.

You don't even realize how the rules work.

a fighter cannot go to purse bid unless they were already ordered to negotiate with the champ as the mandatory.(its literally in the rules) So according to you somehow Porter was supposed to file that form & then go to immediate purse bid as the mandatory,well that makes zero sense because in order to even be in position to go to purse bid he would've had to have 1st been ordered to negotiate in good faith,then if negotiations break down,& only then is the champ ordered to within 60 days make a deal,then & only then the purse bid is ordered.

We have had Bud/Porter talking about how they had already signed to fight Pac ffs,months from now,& when that fell through they're now talking about fighting someone else months from now,if anything you & @ShaneMoselySr said was true none of that would be possible because according to you Ortiz filled out that magical form that makes him immediate mando & purse bid would've been ordered. The truth is you must be wrong or none of these things would be happening as they've been.

What's actually happening is Bud has been allowed behind closed doors to do whatever he/bob think is best for themselves,because WBO is a corrupt pos.

[kushking]

It seems to me that the proper thing is for the WBO itself to call for the mandatory, have a negotiation period, then if the fighters can't agree to a deal call for a purse bid.

If Porter isn't happy with his percentage at that point and pulls out THEN demote him.

But we all know the WBO is in Bob Arum's pocket and won't force Crawford to do anything without Arum's permission.

Read my posts above & tell me what I'm saying doesn't immediately prove that Ortiz couldn't have possibly done as they're saying if he wasn't designated mandatory yet by WBO,which is the requirement for what ShaneMosleySr is saying to be true. You can't have 1 without the other. Checkmate

[ShoulderRoll]

Read my posts above & tell me what I'm saying doesn't immediately prove that Ortiz couldn't have possibly done as they're saying if he wasn't designated mandatory yet by WBO,which is the requirement for what ShaneMosleySr is saying to be true. You can't have 1 without the other. Checkmate

What you wrote makes perfect sense to me, bro.

The WBO is corrupt as hell, though. Which is why they seem to follow no particular rules or process

[Ray*]

It seems to me that the proper thing is for the WBO itself to call for the mandatory, have a negotiation period, then if the fighters can't agree to a deal call for a purse bid.

If Porter isn't happy with his percentage at that point and pulls out THEN demote him.

But we all know the WBO is in Bob Arum's pocket and won't force Crawford to do anything without Arum's permission.

The WBO cannot force or call for a mandatory, whenever they “call” for one it’s because whoever is their highest available ranked boxer has applied.

They would notify you and invite you to make an application, then it’s up to the boxer and his/her team to submit an application, pay the relevant fees and then kick start the process.

Whether Arum is in the WBO’s pocket is irrelevant, this is what most organisation do apart from the most corrupt one (The WBC - The committee chooses anyone that pays the most money).

When Sergei Dervy made his application they made him the mandatory and gave Canelo negotiation time, when he couldn’t agree a deal with Sergei the IBF stripped him.

You cannot hold on to the number 1 spot, and not ask for your shot. It’s not the champion who needs to be asking the number 1 guy for a fight like Haney is doing for Ryan Garcia. You get to number 1 spot to get to the champion.