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  • #21
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
    You just claimed ESPN refused to air Terence Crawford-Shawn Porter on their network, based on no evidence, to excuse Shawn Porter for not signing a document and emailing it back to the WBO.


    I'm not accusing them of anything,Bob/Bud has made it clear he doesn't want Porter fight.Wbo has made it clear Bud has special treatment compared to everyone else,as evidenced by 15 mos without mando despite fighting horrible comp. And WBO rules allow for Bud refusal Because hes"a network contracted fighter"
    Last edited by kushking; 05-05-2021, 06:12 PM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
      You just claimed ESPN refused to air Terence Crawford-Shawn Porter on their network, based on no evidence, to excuse Shawn Porter for not signing a document and emailing it back to the WBO.


      Within the sixty (60) days prior to the date of the compulsory defense, no World Champion shall sign a Contract for the defense of his title, nor defend it agains t a boxer other than the Mandatory Challenger, unless authorized by the World Championship Committee

      In other words Bud should've already been stripped a yr ago if you are such a stickler for cherrypicking wbo rules.(but thats misleading like what you do, Because wbo rules ALSO say the committee has full discretion for any reason)
      Last edited by kushking; 05-05-2021, 06:30 PM.

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      • #23
        First of all, I want to make it clear how far the goal posts have moved.

        We went from there’s no such thing as applying to enforce a mandatory (which I disproved) to a conspiracy theory about espn rejecting a fight that was never proposed.

        I also want to point out that the Porter fans have already posted his podcast, where he states he didn’t activate his mandatory. He blamed it on having to listen to his promoters.

        But back to your insane conspiracy theory...

        How have Bob Arum and Terence Crawford made it clear they don’t want the fight? They’ve both openly talked about making it.

        Do you think the 15 months had something to do with the global pandemic? Did you notice that the wbo ceased operation for three months?

        How about other WBO champs that have gone more than nine months between mandatories...

        Billy Joe Saunders has gone two and a half years without making a mandatory defense. Does the WBO favor DAZN and Eddie Hearn too?

        Demtrius Andrade made his first madatory defense this year, after winning the title in 2018. DAZN/Hearn and the WBO are in bed together, right?

        Do I really need to go on naming champions? I didn’t think so.

        So are we done yet or are you going to make up another insane excuse for the PBC fighter?

        Originally posted by kushking View Post

        I'm not accusing them of anything,Bob/Bud has made it clear he doesn't want Porter fight.Wbo has made it clear Bud has special treatment compared to everyone else,as evidenced by 15 mos without mando despite fighting horrible comp. And WBO rules allow for Bud refusal Because hes"a network contracted fighter"

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        • #24
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
          First of all, I want to make it clear how far the goal posts have moved.

          We went from there’s no such thing as applying to enforce a mandatory (which I disproved) to a conspiracy theory about espn rejecting a fight that was never proposed.

          I also want to point out that the Porter fans have already posted his podcast, where he states he didn’t activate his mandatory. He blamed it on having to listen to his promoters.

          But back to your insane conspiracy theory...

          How have Bob Arum and Terence Crawford made it clear they don’t want the fight? They’ve both openly talked about making it.

          Do you think the 15 months had something to do with the global pandemic? Did you notice that the wbo ceased operation for three months?

          How about other WBO champs that have gone more than nine months between mandatories...

          Billy Joe Saunders has gone two and a half years without making a mandatory defense. Does the WBO favor DAZN and Eddie Hearn too?

          Demtrius Andrade made his first madatory defense this year, after winning the title in 2018. DAZN/Hearn and the WBO are in bed together, right?

          Do I really need to go on naming champions? I didn’t think so.

          So are we done yet or are you going to make up another insane excuse for the PBC fighter?


          Andrade had 2 back to back mandos ordered,Bob has not said he wants the fight,he has laughed in your face while saying Porter deserves a fraction of con or brook.The WBO rules lay out exactly as I stated,that the mandatory is only designated by the committee,they don't announce publicly that someone petitioned to be mandatory,they pick & choose when & where to enforce the rules as they see fit like all orgs do.

          The rules literally state everything i said they do,you can't cherrypick certain rules that are dependent on others. It was none other than Buds trainer himself that said Porter activated the mandatory,yet you choose to believe he somehow activated it & entered negotiations but yet didn't want the fight.

          You can't admit Bud don't want it & priced out & refused to fight Porter,the WBO rules let Bud refuse by saying its i rival promotion (thats why Ortiz is now #1)

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
            Anybody know?
            I thought a guy like you is such an expert in your sport. You sure do act like it dont you? Maybe a basic googlr search could help you out.

            YOURE WELCOME

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            • #26
              Liam Williams was Andrade’s first mandatory defense for the WBO.

              Bob Arum has openly discussed making the Porter fight.

              Shawn Porter could have activated his mandatory and didn’t, anyway, so that point doesn’t even matter. He even admitted this on his podcast.


              Originally posted by kushking View Post

              Andrade had 2 back to back mandos ordered,Bob has not said he wants the fight,he has laughed in your face while saying Porter deserves a fraction of con or brook.The WBO rules lay out exactly as I stated,that the mandatory is only designated by the committee,they don't announce publicly that someone petitioned to be mandatory,they pick & choose when & where to enforce the rules as they see fit like all orgs do.

              The rules literally state everything i said they do,you can't cherrypick certain rules that are dependent on others. It was none other than Buds trainer himself that said Porter activated the mandatory,yet you choose to believe he somehow activated it & entered negotiations but yet didn't want the fight.

              You can't admit Bud don't want it & priced out & refused to fight Porter,the WBO rules let Bud refuse by saying its i rival promotion (thats why Ortiz is now #1)

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              • #27
                Originally posted by kushking View Post

                I figured you might pull the "it's a different org" card out,but I assumed you knew better than that.

                WBO is FAR more corrupt than WBC on so many levels(& WBC is corrupt af obv.)

                You are basing everything your saying on assumption. What I'm telling you is its literally laid out in WBO rules that mandatory gets designated different ways in different situations at boards discretion(as i said Porter might've already been designated mandatory behind closed doors & began negotiations as bomac said) (no different than WBC,but WBC actually tried making Canelo give ggg 45% for his gifted title. That shows the gull WBO has never shown Bud or Arum for that matter especially (its a known secret he pays bribes to Varcacel,& hes hes admitted in fed court to paying bribes also)

                The 1st step to becoming Mandatory as laid out in WBO rules is : entering into negotiations,the rules say Porter cannot be "mandatory" until the WBO designates him mandatory (nowhere in this exact section does it say hes supposed to file that form & then he'll suddenly become mando, because as with all sanctioning orgs its at own discretion of the board entirely without question,& as I said he might've already did that but they told them to negotiate without saying anything publicly (again at wbo boards discretion which they use often)

                If talks break down once WBO has already ordered Porter as mando; WBO gives a warning of a month or 2,& then orders purse bid for the then designated mandatory(as opposed to unofficially like he might've been). (The problem if you're Porter is in order to become Mandatory Bud whos a network contract fighter, has to agree to let him become"officially" Mandatory, Because the WBO rules allow Bud that right of refusal so long as hes willing to fight Ortiz instead (or whomever is the next in line at the time,whom is considered "worthy",but when the steps are listed in official rules they don't say anything about filling out that form at that time,because the WBO only announces anything if Bud agrees hes going to fight Porter behind closed doors to the WBO)

                Porter knows more than anyone on this site thinks,fans should pay more attention to how these things work,because everything is done behind closed doors(when you see someone designated mandatory,there would already have been tons of jostling behind the scenes for that to happen,the WBO is literally the slimiest of them all when it comes to important champs. Thats why they mandated Andrade 2 back to back mandos but Bud hasn't in 15 mos.
                No the WBC are more corrupt, that’s why they gave a mandatory shot to the number 3 guy on their list. When the number 1 guy (Whyte) asked for his shot (Something Porter didn’t).

                Show me where Porter asked the WBO to be made the mandatory when he was their number 1 ranked WW. I would wait... Your actions speaks louder than words and Porter himself has admitted to that effects. So I couldn’t careless what you or the other PBC cultists says. We have been saying it for a while, get Haymon to bring the fight over if you really want the fight. But in keeping with these cultist they kept trying to deflect, asking Arum to offer Porter some extraordinary money when the man already told “you all” that he loses money on Bud.

                Look no point in crying now. He has been demoted and Ortiz is number 1, if Ortiz spend 8 months poosey footing like Porter did then he should be demoted too. Job done, this isn’t the corrupt WBC/WBA who PBC have under their pinky.

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                • #28
                  You gotta meet a guy on the corner & hand him a big bag of money.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    So it wasn't up to Shawn Porter to "activate" his mandatory title shot against Crawford?
                    Shawn porter is one cool dude.... you and I go back years Shalom


                    when Hopkins smashed dela g string mmmmmfish nets then Hopkins stopped Trinidad

                    Mutual of Omaha Crawford is a solid fighter

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                      The WBO named Shawn Porter it’s number one contender.

                      He did not apply for the mandatory position.

                      They moved on.

                      Thats the end of it.

                      It’s because Porter is going to fight Errol Spence again and his promoter will get him more than the 25-percent he’s entitled too against Crawford.

                      This is the most obvious thing ever. Danny Garcia did the exact same thing.

                      Bur enjoy your conspiracy theories that revolve around nothing.



                      Pretty much this ^^^. If you are the number 1 guy and you sit there and do nothing then do we all want the number 2 guy to wait there until the number 1 guy finds his balls? I mean Porter himself said it *The people that are advising him*...
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