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Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Postat the time Mayweather fought them in 2006...who else was there at WW for him to fight?
I love how everyone is knocking him winning the Legitimate WW title....
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostThe double standards are ridiculous. Fact of the matter
is Floyd is fighting JMM at a catch weight of 144 and Cotto
is fighting Pac at 145 AND Cotto is a heavier puncher than
Floyd. No matter how good Floyd opponents are people
while find some reason to discredit them to make Floyd
look bad. JMM gave Pac all he could handle in 24 rounds
including after the KD's BUT Pac is so much better than
JMM? People say Pac can KO Floyd but think Floyd
fighting JMM is a mismatch? I think it's funny.
Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED WW champ...something, Cotto, or Margarito can never say
and when he was the UNDISPUTED WW champ...Mayweather beat him....
Baldomir became undisputed champion by beating Zab Judah (the same guy that Cotto ko'd) and Arturo Gatti at a stage of his career on which he was not at the level of Cotto, Margarito or Mosley.
The fact is that Baldomir can never be compared to those 3 boxers, Undisputed or NotLast edited by prsi; 08-31-2009, 01:53 PM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Posthe wants to fight mosley after he beats a shot vargas but not after mosley is the best welterweight in the world? what changed his mind? the massacre mosley laid on margarito maybe? i mean come on he fought baldomir who was supposed to be the best but he wont fight mosley. surely it can't be cause baldomir is crap and mosley is a top notch fighter right............
even called him out after a few of his fights? Why are
you dancing around the facts so much? Mosley beat
Vargas twice in dominate fashion, what do you mean
shot? Floyd chased the two best which were Oscar
and Mosley bottom line.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostHis next fight took place on January 7, 2006 at Madison Square Garden in New York City against Carlos Baldomir. For Judah, the fight was viewed as a tuneup bout that would lead to a lucrative bout between Judah and WBC junior welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather, Jr., which was tentatively scheduled for April. Judah entered the fight as a 10-to-1 favorite over Baldomir. The stage was set when Judah unsportingly punched Baldomir on the thigh during the prefight introductions instead of touching gloves to show sportsmanship. The early rounds of the fight were close, but as the rounds passed, Judah was doing less than necessary to win, while Baldomir kept applying pressure on Judah. In round seven, Judah was hurt by a right hand and Baldomir landed a series of right hands to Judah's head along the ropes during the tenth round. Baldomir defeated Judah by unanimous decision with scores of 115–113, 114–113, and 115–112 from the three judges. The Ring named Baldomir's victory over Judah the upset of the year for 2006. Judah's IBF and WBA belts were not on the line, because Baldomir did not pay sanctioning fees to the IBF and WBA. Baldomir did win The Ring and WBC titles, while the WBA "super" title was vacated after Judah's loss (WBA "regular" titleholder Luis Collazo became the sole WBA champion), but the IBF still recognized him as their champion.
i think a lil guy named margarito who held the wbo for years would dispute that.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postbut he beat baldomir for it. doesn't that kinda detract from this so called great accomplishment? baldomir is seriously the slowest human on planet earth. i don't think he even moves the world moves around him and he stands still.
were divided on who was going to win because of Floyd size stating
that Baldomir was perhaps too big for him. Williams said he wasn't
sure who was going to win and so did Cintron. Even Margarito said
he hoped Baldomir would win and Floyd shouldn't sleep on him
because he was a dangerous opponent. All of this is FACT.......
do you even know this? Keep seeing things how you want to
but you can look up everything I'm saying because it's documented
but I can't look up what your saying.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostWhen the Baldomir/Floyd fight was announced most of the WW's
were divided on who was going to win because of Floyd size stating
that Baldomir was perhaps too big for him. Williams said he wasn't
sure who was going to win and so did Cintron. Even Margarito said
he hoped Baldomir would win and Floyd shouldn't sleep on him
because he was a dangerous opponent. All of this is FACT.......
do you even know this? Keep seeing things how you want to
but you can look up everything I'm saying because it's documented
but I can't look up what your saying.
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Originally posted by daggum View PostIn professional boxing, the undisputed champion of a weight class is a boxer who is recognized as the world champion at that class by all the major sanctioning bodies.
i think a lil guy named margarito who held the wbo for years would dispute that.
Corey Spinks! Are you debating that? I can't believe it.
He was announced as the UNDISPUTED WW CHAMPION.
Fights with Spinks
On April 10, 2004, at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Judah fought Cory Spinks for the undisputed welterweight championship. Judah had trouble at the start figuring out how to fight Spinks, the taller fighter. He could not move forward to get inside, but was having success moving laterally. Spinks scored a knockdown in the eleventh round, but Judah came back and put Spinks down to the canvas in the final round. In the end, Spinks defeated Judah by unanimous decision with scores of 114–112 twice and 116–111. For the rest of 2004, Judah defeated Rafael Pineda by split decision and Wayne Martell by first round technical knockout. On February 5, 2005, Judah would get a rematch with Spinks at the Savvis Center in St. Louis, Missouri, Spinks' hometown. The fight was the first major bout in St. Louis in more than 40 years, and it was a sellout. Judah was the aggressor throughout the fight. He knocked Spinks down to his knees at the bell in the seventh round, but it was not ruled a knockdown. Spinks had a strong start to the ninth round and connected with a left hand, then followed with a right hand and a combination, but Judah scored a knockdown moments later. Judah pressed the attack after the first knockdown and avoided Spinks' desperate efforts to tie him up. After Spinks was knocked down for the second time, the referee stopped the fight, and Judah became the new undisputed welterweight champion.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostZab Judah was the Undisputed WW Champ after he beat
Corey Spinks! Are you debating that? I can't believe it.
He was announced as the UNDISPUTED WW CHAMPION.
Fights with Spinks
On April 10, 2004, at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Judah fought Cory Spinks for the undisputed welterweight championship. Judah had trouble at the start figuring out how to fight Spinks, the taller fighter. He could not move forward to get inside, but was having success moving laterally. Spinks scored a knockdown in the eleventh round, but Judah came back and put Spinks down to the canvas in the final round. In the end, Spinks defeated Judah by unanimous decision with scores of 114–112 twice and 116–111. For the rest of 2004, Judah defeated Rafael Pineda by split decision and Wayne Martell by first round technical knockout. On February 5, 2005, Judah would get a rematch with Spinks at the Savvis Center in St. Louis, Missouri, Spinks' hometown. The fight was the first major bout in St. Louis in more than 40 years, and it was a sellout. Judah was the aggressor throughout the fight. He knocked Spinks down to his knees at the bell in the seventh round, but it was not ruled a knockdown. Spinks had a strong start to the ninth round and connected with a left hand, then followed with a right hand and a combination, but Judah scored a knockdown moments later. Judah pressed the attack after the first knockdown and avoided Spinks' desperate efforts to tie him up. After Spinks was knocked down for the second time, the referee stopped the fight, and Judah became the new undisputed welterweight champion.
bernard hopkins was the undisputed middleweight champion. corey spinks was never the undisputed welterweight champion. posting an article that is wrong doesn't really help your case.
In professional boxing, the undisputed champion of a weight class is a boxer who is recognized as the world champion at that class by all the major sanctioning bodies.
i think a lil guy named margarito who held the wbo for years would dispute that. strangely enough margarito was the best and he wasn't part of the lil spinks-judah tourney for fake welterweight king.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostWhen the Baldomir/Floyd fight was announced most of the WW's
were divided on who was going to win because of Floyd size stating
that Baldomir was perhaps too big for him. Williams said he wasn't
sure who was going to win and so did Cintron. Even Margarito said
he hoped Baldomir would win and Floyd shouldn't sleep on him
because he was a dangerous opponent. All of this is FACT.......
do you even know this? Keep seeing things how you want to
but you can look up everything I'm saying because it's documented
but I can't look up what your saying.
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