De La Hoya: "The Pressure is On Floyd Mayweather Jr"

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But he was because he was considered the best as far as
rankings at 147 went at the time right? He beat Zab Judah
who was the undisputed WW champ. Maybe he wasn't considered
the best in our eyes but he held the title as the best at 147
so technically Floyd beat the best at 147 status wise not
talent wise. AND who knows if Cotto/Margarito would have
even beat Baldomir?

seriously? yea i guess the fanman could land on their heads during the fight or something but other than that no.

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remember when zab lost to baldomir? kinda killed that fight..........oh wait........he fought him anyway! then he fought baldomir cause if baldomir beat judah he must be a good fighter right? wrong! as proved in subsequent fights beating judah is really no hard task at all as clottey and cotto proved and the same can be said of baldomir who lost to jackson bonsu and vernon forrest.

Man, you'll try to find every angle to prove a point. The fight
between Zab/Floyd was a must because everyone wanted to
see it because people kept saying that he was the only one
that could beat Floyd. PLUS, no one even thought that Zab
would lose but when he did, Floyd and Zab peoples reworked
the contract and Zab took less $ AND Zab still had a title.
Zab was still a bigger name than Cotto/Margarito/Williams/Clottey
at the time.

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seriously? yea i guess the fanman could land on their heads during the fight or something but other than that no.

Hey, we all thought Zab Judah had that Baldomir fight on lock
and look what happened to him.

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well judah and baldomir aren't the best no matter how many belts or linear poopages they had. as you can see when cotto and clottey both beat judah up in subsequent fights. obv baldomir would be destroyed by anyone with a pulse as well.

its equivalent to berto getting 3 belts and the linear championship by beating hlatshwayo and mickey rodriguez. he would have the glitter but he wouldn't have the respect.

its not Mayweathers fault at how the WW Belts exchanged hands...Forest had them...then Mayorga took them..Spinks took them from Mayorga....Zab took them from Spinks.....Baldo took them from Zab.....

Mayweather beat Zab & Baldo

Man Clottey & Cotto werent even big names at the Time Mayweather was fighting at WW....Cotto was fighting Malignaggi that year @ 140...lol....so why would he fight Cotto to prove he was the best?...LMAO!!!

get ur facts straight

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Everything you say is correct but thats all in theory.



I believe Manny Pacquiao's unorthodoxy is what makes him so difficult to handle, plus his speed of hand and foot of coarse.

There is no knowing how Mayweather will cope with Manny's unorthodoxy and left handed stance until they actually get in the ring together, thats why upsets happen in Boxing, because you cant calculate how someone is going to handle what the other guy brings untill they have been in the ring together.

Who would of picked Mayorga to knock Forrest silly ? its not the straightest of right hands he threw so you would expect a quality fighter like Forrest to be able to avoid it.

Also if Pacquiao's was so one dimmensional back in the day, how come no one could get out of the way of his left hand when they knew it was coming ? because its like i said you dont know how someone will deal with a fighters rhythm until they actually fight.

I did not expect Mayweather to have any trouble with Sosa and whilst he was dominent he certainly did not look comfortable getting to grips with Soso's akward rhythm. I aslo did not expect Castillo to give Mayweather the trouble he did.

Look id make Floyd a favourite but you should not act like its a stick on win because he is technically better, if Manny were more orthodox then i would agree but........

I agree, anything can happen in a fight.....but why are we talkin about Mayeather dealing with Manny? We should be talkin about how Manny is gonna deal with Floyd

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Man, you'll try to find every angle to prove a point. The fight
between Zab/Floyd was a must because everyone wanted to
see it because people kept saying that he was the only one
that could beat Floyd. PLUS, no one even thought that Zab
would lose but when he did, Floyd and Zab peoples reworked
the contract and Zab took less $ AND Zab still had a title.
Zab was still a bigger name than Cotto/Margarito/Williams/Clottey
at the time.

people said lacy was the next tyson.

ok answer me this. if berto has 3 titles but he won them by fighting mickey rodriguez, hlatschwayo and michael jennings does this make him the best?. should you fight cotto and mosley or berto cause he has all the titles and people call him the best?

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Hey, we all thought Zab Judah had that Baldomir fight on lock
and look what happened to him.

zab sucks though and always loses.

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remember when zab lost to baldomir? kinda killed that fight..........oh wait........he fought him anyway! then he fought baldomir cause if baldomir beat judah he must be a good fighter right? wrong! as proved in subsequent fights beating judah is really no hard task at all as clottey and cotto proved and the same can be said of baldomir who lost to jackson bonsu and vernon forrest.

you dismiss Mayweather fighting Baldo & Zab but you dont make any valid reasons why he shouldve fought Margo or Cotto?

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people said lacy was the next tyson.

ok answer me this. if berto has 3 titles but he won them by fighting mickey rodriguez, hlatschwayo and michael jennings does this make him the best?. should you fight cotto and mosley or berto cause he has all the titles and people call him the best?

dude ur analogys suck....

what does Berto winning titles from those dudes have to do with mayweather winning his titles from the UNDISPUTED WW champ?

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its not Mayweathers fault at how the WW Belts exchanged hands...Forest had them...then Mayorga took them..Spinks took them from Mayorga....Zab took them from Spinks.....Baldo took them from Zab.....

Mayweather beat Zab & Baldo

Man Clottey & Cotto werent even big names at the Time Mayweather was fighting at WW....Cotto was fighting Malignaggi that year @ 140...lol....so why would he fight Cotto to prove he was the best?...LMAO!!!

get ur facts straight

i'm not saying he should have fought cotto then. i'm just saying it's a strange coincidence when the good guys come to welter mayweather go a running away. beating baldomir and judah alright good wins at the time but then these top guys come along and destroy them as well and floyd disappears.

now he's coming back which is cool cause i like watching him fight but he's being ridiculous fighting marquez. he already had his last fight against a small dude. cotto was the best challenger before floyd retired and he fought hatton instead. now mosley, cotto, and pac are the best and he's doing it all over again fighting marquez. seems like he's playing his fans for fools.