Comments Thread For: Arum on Fury-Joshua: Fight is 'Dead in The Water' For July, August

[OnlytheTruth]

The problem that I have with this whole thing is that Arum consistently talks about them 'waiting' for Eddie Hearn to do something. Why is Arum and Warren not doing anything here? They have spent more time complaining and being negative about what Eddie Hearn is doing. Instead of trying to downplay this, they should be trying to sell it!

I mean, there's no smoke without fire. On the face of it, it appears that Hearn is trying to do EVERYTHING to get this FIGHT MADE. Arum, Warren, Tyson Fury and John Fury are all trying to do EVERYTHING to get this fight NOT MADE. Why?

The money they have on the table is more than Fury will make fighting anyone else, probably EVER. No chance that Wilder v Fury 3 makes more than Joshua v Fury. Absolutely no chance. Not a chance in hell. So why do they need to be consistently negative?

There is an air of superiority to Arum, Warren, Fury etc. As if Eddie Hearn or Matchroom owe them something. They should be ***** grateful.

[KP1]

Only complete stubbornness can be causing people to still blame team AJ at this point.

Team Fury look like they actually want the offer to fall through so that they get an out.

[greeneye99]

It’s over! I knew it! Took us all for a ride!

arum Spoke to the telegraph which is a UK newspaper and he said the fight is pretty much ‘dead in the water’. He said it will take months to sort out all the fees and broadcast deals with the Saudis and that both AJ and fury will most likely fight each other in December but in the meanwhile fight someone else before then.

edit: bigpoppapump you can move this thread into your one now if you want

You sound happy...
Relax and stop panicking after reading every Bob Arum Article about this Fight
Actually
Ask Bob what's he done to make this fight happen this Summer
Wait I'll tell ya
absolutely Nothing!

[greeneye99]

Guess Hearn was lying the whole time...

Hearn was lying?
But Bob Arum been telling the Truth this entire time
You must be new to Boxing
Lololololol

[greeneye99]

Mike Coppinger is paid off by Eddie.

Bruh
Just look at your Moniker
You're an Eddie Hearn Troll
Everything you post will be all Matchroom Negativity!

[davef]

I knew it and so did everyone here this fight wasn't going to happen in the end boxing refuses to make big fights at the right time yet again I'm bored of it

[Bronx2245]

Chisora Says Wilder Needs To Be Paid Step Aside For Joshua – Fury To Happen
Boxing News 24
April 29, 2021
By Sean Jones

According to Chisora, despite what’s been said by promoters Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn, that contract is still valid.

And if it is still active, Fury (30-0-1, 21 KOs) will lose a lot of money if he attempts to circumvent his contractual rematch with the former WBC heavyweight champion Wilder (42-1-1, 41 KOs).

It may not be a big deal for Hearn and Joshua that Fury would ignore his contractually bound rematch because it will not cost them any money. It’s Fury that will have to deal with it because he’s the one who has the contract.

Earlier today, Fury’s promoter Arum said the Telegraph Sport that the Joshua-Fury fight is “dead in the water” for the summer. Although sources for Mike Coppinger say otherwise, Arum says the fight is not happening.

On Tuesday of this week, Arum traveled to Napa, California, to speak to the mediator for the Wilder vs. Fury fight. He immediately began saying the fights were not happening.

So the question is, what did the mediator tell Arum to cause him to lose interest in making the Fury vs. Joshua fight? It had to have been something to cause Arum to start veering off in another direction and talking about wanting to make the fight with Wilder potentially.

“You have to understand Deontay Wilder signed a three-fight deal with Tyson,” Derek Chisora said to the DAZN Boxing Show.

“Pandemic came and shut everything down, AJ had his fight with Kubrat Pulev, and the whole hype thing happened with his fight with Fury.

“But don’t forget the three-fight deal with Wilder. [Joshua vs. Fury] is not going to happen because he [Fury] has to fight with Wilder before everything else. So Wilder says I’ll stand aside for $80 million.

“The [Joshua-Fury] fight only happens when Tyson Fury fights Deontay Wilder,” said Chisora.

There wouldn’t be a problem if Fury stuck it out with his contractual rematch with Wilder last year instead of going after the Joshua fight.

Had Fury take the fight with Wilder at the end of the year, the rematch would have been done with, and he would be in the position to fight Joshua.

Obviously, it wouldn’t have been a guaranteed win for Fury in the trilogy match against the dangerous Wilder, which is likely why he didn’t take the fight. Wilder might have knocked him out, and there wouldn’t be a Joshua fight.

Fury will need to get his act together and lose some pounds if he chooses to honor his contractual rematch with Wilder. Tyson is looking weak, flabby slow right now.

https://www.************.com/2021/04...ury-to-happen/

[Monzon99]

arum and fury are mayweathering AJ and trying to put the blame on Hearn.

[FLY TY]

Only?

He got over $40 mil site fee.
1.5 mil UK PPVs (around $35 each) = $52.5 mil

So Joshua-Ruiz 2 raked in near enough the same as Fury-Wilder without US PPV. Fantastic numbers. Well done Eddie.

Edit: Seems you're the liar. Fury-Wilder 2 did a $16.9 mil gate and 800k buys at $79.99. That's around $80.9 mil not 100. OOOooopppsss

Lol. Okay I was exaggerating a bit.

You got me.


Edit: Also, what you just did was prove my point, by showing the power of US ppv. Without a huge site fee, Eddie stands no chance, which is exactly why this fight just fell apart. I wonder how much revenue Joshua-Ruiz 1 generated?

[FLY TY]

It's not a 'court challenge' it is a dispute to be settled in arbitration not court.

If the arbitration has not been settled yet it is taking a seriously long time for what should have been a pretty simple case of alleged breach of contract. Presumably there was a rematch clause or else it is hard to see what the dispute could be. But any clause would have associated provisions such as the time within which it must be invoked and executed upon. Determining if it was invoked by Wilder in a timely manner is trivially simple. Deciding if, even if invoked, good faith efforts were made to execute on that invocation is more complex but not brain surgery. There will be an audit trail. Claiming covid as force majeure seems a losing strategy as other fights have been made. So to be honest I am at a loss to understand quite why this is taking so long, on the face of it it seems a pretty simple case. Obviously W's lawyers will attempt to muddy the waters but even so.

If you believe you have a winning case in arbitration it is perfectly reasonable for you to make plans on that assumption.

Part of the reason it's taken this long, is because they were in mediation for a while. Within the last couple months, they went from mediation to arbitration.

The argument from Fury's side is that the contract expired for the rematch, which it did.

The argument from Wilder is that it wasn't his fault the contract expired, it was because ESPN and Fox didn't want to hold the fight until February of this year, so Fury should still be bound.

So mediation for a couple months, then arbitration for about 3, seems right. Court decisions aren't made in 2 weeks. What's completely ridiculous at this point, is that without all the posturing, they could've fought 3 months ago.