Comments Thread For: Arum on Fury-Joshua: Fight is 'Dead in The Water' For July, August

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

if you have nothing to back that up, ****off!

He said the fight was a “done deal” in December.

Blatant lie? Or are you that f***ing gullible?

Matchroom m***...

[Szef]

Fury and Arum are stalling. No way around it.

[harry-greb]

And don't mention that John Skipper Admitted To “Messing Up” $100m Deontay Wilder Deal.

Yeah he forgot to massage deontays feet while making the offer!!!! Gtfoh
100 MILLION DOLLARS
and they turned it down.

[kafkod]

I'm curious what grounds you had for believing this.

Same grounds he had for announcing that DAZN was about to go bankrupt 18 months ago. Wishful thinking. If Fury vs AJ doesn't happen, a lot of people at this forum will be celebrating like Wilder KO'd both of them.

[kafkod]

Disappointing news.

I'm a Fury fan but Arum is pissing me off. Just make the ****ing fight!

Or at least, just STFU and let Eddie Hearn get on with whatever he's trying to sort out with the Saudis.

I know it's dragging on, and Fury needs to fight somebody this summer, but Arum could work on a plan B with an alternative opponent behind the scenes. There is no need for this kind of public negativity from him.

[hugh grant]

I just want to know who wins. I don't need to see the fight. I think Josh and fury should become each other's sparring partners and they tell us who won the sparring. If we get to see a real fight this summer in a Saudi stadium that's just a bonus.

HOw hard can it be to se3 whos the best?

[PredatorStyle]

Might speculate that it is Arum who is being the spanner in the works and he's just getting in there first with the press, trying to spin it his way.

[harry-greb]

Wilder was never offered 100 million to fight AJ. Funny you tell someone not to let facts get in the way,, spec in their eye, tree in yours.

He was offered 20 million to fight brezeale, and 40 million each for two fights with wilder, and he/they turned it down

[Redgloveman]

Arum and Warren have been consistently negative about this fight getting made for some time now.

you wonder what it going on behind the scenes. If they wanted the fight to go ahead they would keep quiet rather than coming out with negativity.

[Bronx2245]

Or at least, just STFU and let Eddie Hearn get on with whatever he's trying to sort out with the Saudis.

I know it's dragging on, and Fury needs to fight somebody this summer, but Arum could work on a plan B with an alternative opponent behind the scenes. There is no need for this kind of public negativity from him.

This is why there will be no Spence vs. Crawford! This is why it was so hard to make Mayweather vs. Pacquiao! Bob wants to humiliate Eddie Hearn! DAZN is not his competitor, it's his enemy, and he wants a war! He tried to bury Al Haymon, but it did not work! If Eddie is not careful, Bob will cut his head off! History Lesson...

Blame Arum for no Pac-Floyd fight
January 6, 2012

Friday's turn of events made that pretty clear. There have been previous negotiations and lots of rhetoric. At various times throughout this whole ordeal, I believe both sides have been to blame.

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment.

Arum doesn't want to match his cash cow, Pacquiao, with somebody he doesn't control, and he has no control over Mayweather. He once did, but that was years ago, before their nasty breakup.

Arum is also a smart boxing guy, as are his matchmakers, Brad "Abdul" Goodman and Bruce Trampler. They know Pacquiao would be the underdog, especially given how he looked in his controversial majority decision win in November against Juan Manuel Marquez, whom Mayweather thoroughly dominated when they fought in September 2009. Arum and his people know there is a strong possibility Pacquiao will lose if he ever fights Mayweather.

If Pacquiao did fight Mayweather and lose, he could certainly go on. But at this stage of his career, a loss might send Pacquiao deeper into politics in the Philippines, where he is already a congressman, and that would mean no more Pacquiao fights -- or at least only sporadic fights -- for Arum to make millions on.

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope."

Come again? You won't even talk about it with Pacquiao, I asked very politely.

"My mission is to go over to the Philippines and talk about these four guys," Arum said. "If Manny feels he wants to go in May, he will tell me. I want to make sure Manny's cuts are healed. We won't fall under this kind of pressure. June is much more likely for Manny's fight, not May."

So May was a real possibility yesterday, but now there's no way?

"What if they fought and Manny started bleeding on the first punch?" a clearly flustered Arum said. "I don't know if Manny is available to fight in May. I have no idea. I haven't talked to him; I haven't seen him. Seems to me, June is more likely based on what his plastic surgeon said..."

Then Schaefer ripped into Arum as the impediment to making a fight he claims Mayweather and Golden Boy have wanted all along.

"I don't think Manny Pacquiao wants to be on that list of names for Mayweather, or Bob doesn't want him to be on the list," Schaefer said. "I am sick and tired of Arum's bulls---. First Bob said June is when Pacquiao would fight, when Floyd was going to be on May 5. Then, when it looked like Floyd wouldn't be available in May, he said Pacquiao would be available in May. Now, since they know Mayweather is going to fight in May, suddenly Pacquiao is going to fight in June.

"I'm tired of all those people saying it is Mayweather who doesn't want the fight. Arum knows who to call. He can pick up the phone and call me and say, 'Let's get a fight done with Pacquiao.' The rest of it is bulls---. The rest can go drink the Arum and Top Rank Kool-Aid. It is Arum who doesn't want the fight to happen, end of story."

I agree with Schaefer.

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