Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor: Teofimo Lopez is NOT Undisputed, He Must Fight Haney!

[Eff Pandas]

I wonder if Josh would feel the same if he beat the WBC franchise champion, Loma, who had his "real" WBC belt gifted to Devin Haney with a W over the highly regarded & well known Zaur Abdullaev before losing the belt & being gifted it back?

I mean respect to Haney. He's taking advantage of the situation as he should & honestly has to to some degree, but EVERYONE knows he's not a real champion. He's a title holder. Loma was The Champion. And Teofimo beat The Champion. Hence he's The Champion. Fook all the trivia question bs.

[eco1]

Lopez got lucky and will not rematch Loma or fight anyone with a pulse

[kerrminator]

The 'Tart-Tomato' Josh Taylor wont remember if hes Irish, British or Welsh after Jose Ramirez get finished with him.

Ramirez won't know whether he needs a shyte or a haircut after Taylors done with him

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I wonder if Josh would feel the same if he beat the WBC franchise champion, Loma, who had his "real" WBC belt gifted to Devin Haney with a W over the highly regarded & well known Zaur Abdullaev before losing the belt & being gifted it back?

I mean respect to Haney. He's taking advantage of the situation as he should & honestly has to to some degree, but EVERYONE knows he's not a real champion. He's a title holder. Loma was The Champion. And Teofimo beat The Champion. Hence he's The Champion. Fook all the trivia question bs.

But you have to tell the whole story.

Haney became Lomachenko's mandatory and then Top Rank requested Franchise Champion status.

If not for that Devin would be Teofimo's WBC mando right now. But Arum takes advantage of every trick in the book for ducking and dodging.

[landotter]

Teofimo Lopez is NOT Undisputed, He Must Fight Haney! Nice bible verse, little ironic quoting a scripture from a chapter completely dedicated on opposing our PRIDE given that peoples arrogance turned delusional take on this fight. Your arrogance and delusions of grandeur is keeping you from acknowledging the truth about round 2. You people think you know it all, facts (highlights), Bradley, Wards scorecard (other boxing historians) will never bring an end to your uneducated and biased assessments.

Ummm..... What?

Take a breath. Calm down. I have no idea what point you are making about anything. Not even saying you are wrong.

Not sure what arrogance you are referring to. Not sure what you mean by round 2 or what scorecards involving Bradley and Ward you are bringing up. Just generally seems like you lost your point. But quoted me so I guess you disagree with me somewhere?

So lost, I am.

[BoxingIsGreat]

But you have to tell the whole story.

Haney became Lomachenko's mandatory and then Top Rank requested Franchise Champion status.

If not for that Devin would be Teofimo's WBC mando right now. But Arum takes advantage of every trick in the book for ducking and dodging.

The bold: True. I've seen that press conference live. Arum looked directly at Haney and said: "Loma is not gonna fight you, we'll ask for a franchise" with a smirk. I remember it like yesterday. Hearn was next to Haney.

[Eff Pandas]

But you have to tell the whole story.

Haney became Lomachenko's mandatory and then Top Rank requested Franchise Champion status.

If not for that Devin would be Teofimo's WBC mando right now. But Arum takes advantage of every trick in the book for ducking and dodging.

The whole story is still bs. Like who did Haney beat to become mando? Did Haney truthfully deserve a title shot? Does this ABC bs make any fooking sense on a consistent basis?

Whatever doe, my main point remains the same if Josh had beaten the #1 guy with a stellar resume at 135 with a superior WBC belt he wouldn't give a fook about a lesser ranked, no resume guy with a lesser WBC belt gifted to him enough to "stop the presses" to avoid calling himself the undisputed guy in the division. If I'm wrong we will probably find out one day if Josh is half as good as some suggest cuz he'll surely get stripped of a belt or get some franchise or super belt given to him so a ABC group can collect more sanctioning fees from a new promising guy.

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The whole story is still bs. Like who did Haney beat to become mando? Did Haney truthfully deserve a title shot? Does this ABC bs make any fooking sense on a consistent basis?

Whatever doe, my main point remains the same if Josh had beaten the #1 guy with a stellar resume at 135 with a superior WBC belt he wouldn't give a fook about a lesser ranked, no resume guy with a lesser WBC belt gifted to him enough to "stop the presses" to avoid calling himself the undisputed guy in the division. If I'm wrong we will probably find out one day if Josh is half as good as some suggest cuz he'll surely get stripped of a belt or get some franchise or super belt given to him so a ABC group can collect more sanctioning fees from a new promising guy.

The ABC bs doesn't make sense on a consistent basis but that's the framework boxers have to operate in. Within that framework Haney did enough to become Lomachenko's mando.

If Lomachenko preferred to fight Teofimo instead that's fine...but then Haney should still have been mandatory for the winner.

Instead Top Rank cut him out of the picture entirely. And now people want to blame Devin for not beating or fighting anyone , even though he was trying to do just that against the best in the division.

[Eff Pandas]

The ABC bs doesn't make sense on a consistent basis but that's the framework boxers have to operate in. Within that framework Haney did enough to become Lomachenko's mando.

If Lomachenko preferred to fight Teofimo instead that's fine...but then Haney should still have been mandatory for the winner.

Instead Top Rank cut him out of the picture entirely. And now people want to blame Devin for not beating or fighting anyone , even though he was trying to do just that against the best in the division.

Top Rank went for the in house fight which they always do anyway regardless of ABC bs.

I'm not blaming anyone. I said I get what Devin did & its fine. But I also get why Teofimo is The Champion at 140 & thats fine too. Teofimo or Loma woulda did the same sh^t just like Devin or Josh woulda did the same sh^t as Loma. I can ignore the bs. Some fans get weeded down in it & like to act like it makes any fooking sense for some reason sometimes.

Idk that anyone is blaming Devin for not fighting anyone its just the reality like it is or has been with Boots, Errol, GGG, Keef, Andrade, fooking Rocky Marciano lol & so many others in boxing history. That said its much less of an issue when you are Devin's age & in his situation than when you are Andrade or Marciano at the stages of their career of being likely past prime & deceased.

Random question for anyone stockholm syndromed into ABC groups wacky bs. If a guy holds all the titles except the WBC "regular" belt & he fights that guy who's got that belt & beats him is he The Champion &/or undisputed if there is still a guy, who like Loma, was upgraded to the WBC "franchise" belt & is considered the #1 guy in the division?

[Sid-Knee]

Lomachenko's team requested Franchise Champion status. That is a fact and no amount of revisionist history (something Brits love to engage in) is ever going to change that.

Arum did, yes. But this was before he had even fought Lopez. Had Loma won, he still wouldn't be fighting Haney yet anyway. They did it because they didn't want the WBC to come and strip Loma before making the fight fans actually wanted. Not the one against Haney. Loma doesn't duck anyone. Especially not someone who hasn't done shlt and would be beat by Loma quite easily. Americans just wanted to smear him like they do with everyone outside of the asylum.

Brits love to engage in "Revisionist history"?? No they don't. That's just your projection as per usual. Americans love to do it though, as well as all out lies and slander like the extremists you are. But you stay deluded, yeah.