Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor: Teofimo Lopez is NOT Undisputed, He Must Fight Haney!
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Franchise was never a belt only a status (title). Only Deontay Wilder was smart enough to know it wasnt an UPGRADE because it's not an actual belt and it is too new. Even if it was initially created an actual belt IT COULDNT be considered a major title because it's too new so know other bodies would recognize it. Nor could it REPLACE the SUPER CHAMPION belt that Loma gave up. Their has only ever been one per sanction. In theory, their is no such thing. Either your are or your arent. The only history Teo made is becoming the first DISPUTED champion in boxing history.But....he beat luke Campbell for the real WBC championship and then was upgraded to 'franchise champion' afterwards. Whereas devin was the interim wbc champion who was upgraded to full once lomachenko was upgraded. So in theory, lomachenko was the true WBC champion anyway.
so in my opinion lopez is undisputed. Without the ****** upgrade, devin would still be interim and lopez would hold all the 'true' championship belts. So this 'lopez isn't undisputed till he beats haney makes no sense.Comment
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After Taylor retires Ramirez, Jose can come to Edinburgh and get a job as a doorman. That way he can get to know Josh a bit better at the weekend. Come on, let's hear it...Comment
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I heard Edinburgh is worse than Tijuana, as far as crime is concerned. Josh Taylor should go live in Wales after his humiliating defeat to the KING of 140 ; I recently read that the Welsh greeted Liam Williams with a heroes welcome following his loss to another American Olympian Demetrius 'Boo-Boo' Andrade the WBO middleweight champ. Just like Andrade, Jose is a former U.S Oympian and also holds the WBO crown along with the WBC world title, the momentum is riding on team U.S.A! Prepare for another upsetting loss.Comment
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That’s true generally
But WBC is the problem. Loma was the actual champ and got elevated.
haney got given a belt by email, where as Lopez beat the guy that was the real WBC champ before the franchise nonsense.
lopez has every right to feel he’s undisputed especially when Haney never won the belt in a fight, it was literally handed to him.
the whole thing is a mess because of the WBC.
so now you have one guy that should really be holding all the belts that he won in title fights. And one guy calling himself the other world champ who never even won a belt in a fight, all because WBC made a new belt.
it’s a joke really. neither is in the wrong. Im siding with Lopez though, simply because Haney never won his in a fight.Comment
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The mental gymnastics some of you are doing to defend this fake undisputed status of Teo is getting weird. In boxing, you keep what you kill.
Loma (and/or his handlers) went to the WBC convention and requested Franchise status in order to avoid fighting the interim champion (Haney). The money hungry WBC did what they did best and granted his/their request in order to double the sanctioning fees being collected.
Not Teos fault; not Devins fault, but the fact remains that it is a fractured belt. With the Franchise status being newer, as expected most lean towards the regular WBC belt being considered higher status and recognized as the belt needed to establish undisputed status.
The definition of undisputed is: not disputed or called into question; generally accepted. If it’s not near unanimously understood that one man is the only legit champion in a division, then he’s not undisputed.
When your peers (Taylor) are discrediting your accomplishments unsolicited, you have a problem. I see no reason they can’t/won’t fight to settle this matter, and hopefully it happens if/when they get past the upcoming bouts (which are both great fights)Last edited by TrillScottHeron; 04-22-2021, 12:11 PM.Comment
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I thought Lopez KO of Commey was better than anything Haney ever dreamed of, and what is Taylor doing looking at smaller fighters? He's beginning to sound a little insecure, like he's wishing for an easy fight. Even if Haney slaps past Lopez, he's too small to hurt Taylor. It sounds like Taylor is whistling in a graveyard.Last edited by Corelone; 04-22-2021, 12:37 PM.Comment
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Saying he won it via email isn’t an insult to Haney. Loma dropped the belt. That isn’t Haney’s fault. We as fans need to be clear about who we put the blame on here, I have no issues with Loma fighting Lopez instead of Haney. But the WBC belt wasn’t on the line. It’s that simple.Comment
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