MMA fighters can't fight and that sport won't last much longer.

[boogbx]

They can fight but they can’t box.

MMA strikers would be bums in boxing, which is why they don’t box.

respect the different sports and acknowledge the superiority of Boxing.

[TMLT87]

https://smcmarketing.org/blog/ufc-tr...-fix-problems/

2020 Article on the ongoing decline of UFC really good read

Wow what a damning article, UFC is dying because 7 champions lost a fight 5 years ago...what? in other news boxing is NOT in decline when the first PPV of 2021 is a Youtuber vs an MMA fighter, the biggest boxing PPV of last year involved 53 year old Mike Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ in a fight where there could be no official winner (dont forget the Youtuber vs NBA guy co main, extra stacked) and the biggest boxing PPV of 2017 was retired Floyd vs another MMA fighter.

Btw the person writing that is a ****ing moron. Anderson Silva wasnt in the UFC until 2006 and GSP until 2004 but apparently both were instrumental in growing the UFC in the early 00s. The guy says champions losing means the UFC is in trouble then goes on to cite Ken Shamrock who went 1-4 in the UFC in the 00s and Brock who tapped out in his UFC debut.

[El_Mero]

We saw an MMA guy with a record of 18-2 get blitzed inside of one round. MMA guys are generally really low level that's why Brock Lesnar could convert and dominate and why Jake paul was so able to easily destroy a MMA fighter with a good resume.

It's a joke sport.

Askren has never been a "throw hands" type of guy. He's a celebrated collegiate wrestler and former olympian. Not sure what all the hate is for. He tried boxing and lost to a guy who "boxes". I imagine most of our boxers getting into the octogon and getting beat up pretty badly. Not sure what the issue is tbh

[Dakuwaqa]

Askren has never been a "throw hands" type of guy. He's a celebrated collegiate wrestler and former olympian. Not sure what all the hate is for. He tried boxing and lost to a guy who "boxes". I imagine most of our boxers getting into the octogon and getting beat up pretty badly. Not sure what the issue is tbh

You think a decent boxer would lose to a YouTuber who had been training MMA for 3 years and never had any real fights? Nah mate especially not after a training camp

[ShoulderRoll]

And this is relevant to the discussion how?

I was put off by the condenscending tone of your earlier comment. So I felt the need to address it.

[Stuntman Mike]

Boxing is dramtically larger than UFC, **** off to a UFC forum if this upsets you.

Are you so narrow minded that you have to argue about which is better ufc or boxing and throw insults or telling people to **** off?

I was around here during a great era 2007 to 2012-2013 ish was an amazing time for boxing fans but it has since declined

However the ufc is far better to the fans is all I'm saying

I prefer boxing as a sport in general but **** me it's def going downhill and ufc is still the same as it was the best fighting the best

If ufc considered multiple belts in the same weight division and made the fights more meaningless I wouldnt watch at all which goes to show how good boxing as a sport is

[nubianpiye]

Are you so narrow minded that you have to argue about which is better ufc or boxing and throw insults or telling people to **** off?

I was around here during a great era 2007 to 2012-2013 ish was an amazing time for boxing fans but it has since declined

However the ufc is far better to the fans is all I'm saying

I prefer boxing as a sport in general but **** me it's def going downhill and ufc is still the same as it was the best fighting the best

If ufc considered multiple belts in the same weight division and made the fights more meaningless I wouldnt watch at all which goes to show how good boxing as a sport is

**** off. Thanks.

[Stuntman Mike]

Wow what a damning article, UFC is dying because 7 champions lost a fight 5 years ago...what? in other news boxing is NOT in decline when the first PPV of 2021 is a Youtuber vs an MMA fighter, the biggest boxing PPV of last year involved 53 year old Mike Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ in a fight where there could be no official winner (dont forget the Youtuber vs NBA guy co main, extra stacked) and the biggest boxing PPV of 2017 was retired Floyd vs another MMA fighter.

Btw the person writing that is a ****ing moron. Anderson Silva wasnt in the UFC until 2006 and GSP until 2004 but apparently both were instrumental in growing the UFC in the early 00s. The guy says champions losing means the UFC is in trouble then goes on to cite Ken Shamrock who went 1-4 in the UFC in the 00s and Brock who tapped out in his UFC debut.

I didn't even read the article but there's a si.ple argument why the fighters don't keep their 0s it's because there's one belt and you have to step up quite quickly If you wanna make money

Boxers can hide with padded records and vacant won straps for years

[Stuntman Mike]

**** off. Thanks.

Such a **** poster and look you're dissing the ufc yet you're a fan of dillian shyte he's a bum ,keep digging and reposting your uneducated drivel

[nubianpiye]

Lol Jesus. I have given you endless numbers over and over. Ive given you PPV, social media, Youtube views etc and you respond with fantastical anecdotes about how many people in outer Mongolia allegedly watched some guy that nobody has ever heard of. Its got **** all to do with racism, its to do with the fact that its borderline impossible to actually confirm or deny those kinds of numbers. Nobody is going to be able to look up viewing figures in every ****ing country and even if you could nobody knows who was actually watching intentionally and who left their ****ing tv on in the background. This is precisely why you cling to something so ****ing intangible, it allows you to keep living in fantasy land when all the hard easily accessible numbers contradict your argument.

Just imagine for a second that all these numbers were in favour of boxing - if boxing did like double or more the PPV buys of the UFC basically every year, if it got way more views on Youtube, if boxing stars had massively larger social media followings on average, if EA was making Fight Night games and there were no UFC games, if the UFCs biggest PPVs of the year were Youtubers vs retired boxers etc. Then I dismissed all that and started claiming MMA is actually bigger anyway because a billion people allegedly watched some MMA fighter you've never heard of in China. Thats what you're doing, pure denial.

The thing that undermines you argument and highlights what a dunce you are is how weak your argument is. I didn't mention Mongolia And China Germany and the UK are financial powerhouses what do you mean? Your implication that these countries don't have the methods of tracking viewrshio numbers is laughable.

And then you pull out of your arse that perhaps these people are watching these channels in the background? lol laughable and pathetic stance and argument.

You are clearly a teenager or younger as you keep going back to youtube social media and video games as some kind of measurement instead of viewing figures which as youcan see boxing dramatically outdoes UFC and MMA in every nation not named the USA

I mean, is there any explanation beyond it being by far the largest combat sports promotion in the world why the UFC has over 3x as many Youtube subscribers and over 5x as many IG followers as PBC, Top Rank, Matchroom, Goldenboy and DAZN boxing combined? and thats just their English language channel, they also have UFC Russia, UFC Brasil, UFC Espanol and probably others.

Heres some recent YT view counts (within the last 24 hrs for those who have uploaded something in that time or within the last week if not)

UFCs main channel: Within the last 24 hours they've got 639k views for a countdown show for this weekends card, 145k for the best of Rose Namajunas, 46k for some talk show about the event.
UFC Russia: 75k views for Russian language version of that countdown show in the last 24 hrs.
UFC Espanol: 48k views for Spanish language countdown in the last 24 hrs.

Even UFC fight numbers are dramatically inflated as it is a private company not publically owned a number is thrown out and we are told to believe it meanwhile you are discounting countries like China the second the richest nation in the world and trying to imply they don't have metrics for tracking views this is likely because you are a bigot just like Dana

Your argument is weak non of the numbers I've given is guesswork but you are determined to disbelieve them as this allows you to continue to believe in your deluded fantasy. Boxing is bigger than MMA in every country in the world not named America and 95% of MMA fighters are low-level brawlers who couldn't make it in any other sport. That's the reason they use UFC for leverage and then immediately try to get a boxing match so they can make some real money. If they tried to go the traditional route through boxing they'd get found out very early because generally speaking, they are trash.