Ajagba hits harder than Wilder

[Marchegiano]

Where does Johnathan Rice rank on Wilder's resume? Like tier wise, I know he's not a guy Wilder fought.

Rice about equal to Stiverne? Dom? Who is the best name you'd favor Rice to beat or at least do well enough to prove he's in the same league?

Dude had been KO'd before Efe, has a record rather similar to Wilder's mid to late record opponents, and took Efe the full 10 decision so.....yeah, reckon Wilder hits harder, but I like Efe a lot too.

I'd be absolutely fine to go all aboard the new power buss but I reckon the old one's still the man in that regard. To flip what you said, Wilder not only beats every man Efe ever fought, but also knocks the right out and has beaten better men.

What evidence is there to cling to that this kid hits harder?

[Larry the boss]

why are all of your threads so negative?

[ShaneMosleySr]

The reaction to one thunderous punch is what I’m using.

Obviously Wilder has the better KO percentage but that doesn’t tell the whole story.

Where does Johnathan Rice rank on Wilder's resume? Like tier wise, I know he's not a guy Wilder fought.

Rice about equal to Stiverne? Dom? Who is the best name you'd favor Rice to beat or at least do well enough to prove he's in the same league?

Dude had been KO'd before Efe, has a record rather similar to Wilder's mid to late record opponents, and took Efe the full 10 decision so.....yeah, reckon Wilder hits harder, but I like Efe a lot too.

I'd be absolutely fine to go all aboard the new power buss but I reckon the old one's still the man in that regard. To flip what you said, Wilder not only beats every man Efe ever fought, but also knocks the right out and has beaten better men.

What evidence is there to cling to that this kid hits harder?

[ShaneMosleySr]

I thought it was a very positive thread for the you g heavyweight.

why are all of your threads so negative?

[Marchegiano]

The reaction to one thunderous punch is what I’m using.

Obviously Wilder has the better KO percentage but that doesn’t tell the whole story.

I think, I'm not sure, but I think that'll see you down the road to Marciano bud.

Do you know if Deontay or Efe have actually ever hurt anyone?

I'll say it like this. That Walcott KO is a real sleeper too. Roland LaStarza did a rope-a-dope type defense against Marciano and got his elbows shattered for it. The US Army measures him upwards of most firearms. Most of the men Marciano ever fought ended up only having five or less fights after Marciano no matter where they are in their career or where he is in his career. 25 of the 49.


That said, c'mon dude's tiny compared to these guys. Surely both his harder...cause weight, ya know?

[billeau2]

Well if he was fighting at LHW he isn’t a natural HW is he? I’m just saying that Ajagba can clearly punch hard just like Wilder, but KOing an unknown journeyman doesn’t really prove anything.

People can look at the division and back ten years or so and see many guys who can punch... Guys like amir mansour, anyone remember him? These guys usually have a few nice fights and all, but they seldom go very far. And people would be suprised... a guy like Tommy Morrison, if you watch him coming up? It was not his punch (left hook), but his combos... he even had nice footwork and all, ditto for Ruddock who had a beautiful jab etc. My point being, that the ideation of the "one punch wonder" in reality seldom ever was, and seldom works out, even when a fighter is reduced to fighting like that. Someone like Lamont Brewster, Morrison, or Ruddock, all talented guys who eventually were reduced to depending on a big punch... These guys did not start that way. Brewster's dismantling of the Foul Pole looked like a Dempsey fight!!! lol. (tongue in cheek).

There are reasons why Wilder is a rare bird. He is somewhat exceptional. Not exceptional because he is a puncher (all the guys mentioned above were punchers), but that he truly is that guy who can survive with one punch. he met his skill level eventually but hey... The Gypsy King is no slouch! So looking at these guys coming up... they may become big punchers, boxer punchers, etc... But they most definitely will not be able to hit solid tier guys with Hilight reel shots that work on journeymen.

[REDEEMER]

People can look at the division and back ten years or so and see many guys who can punch... Guys like amir mansour, anyone remember him? These guys usually have a few nice fights and all, but they seldom go very far. And people would be suprised... a guy like Tommy Morrison, if you watch him coming up? It was not his punch (left hook), but his combos... he even had nice footwork and all, ditto for Ruddock who had a beautiful jab etc. My point being, that the ideation of the "one punch wonder" in reality seldom ever was, and seldom works out, even when a fighter is reduced to fighting like that. Someone like Lamont Brewster, Morrison, or Ruddock, all talented guys who eventually were reduced to depending on a big punch... These guys did not start that way. Brewster's dismantling of the Foul Pole looked like a Dempsey fight!!! lol. (tongue in cheek).

There are reasons why Wilder is a rare bird. He is somewhat exceptional. Not exceptional because he is a puncher (all the guys mentioned above were punchers), but that he truly is that guy who can survive with one punch. he met his skill level eventually but hey... The Gypsy King is no slouch! So looking at these guys coming up... they may become big punchers, boxer punchers, etc... But they most definitely will not be able to hit solid tier guys with Hilight reel shots that work on journeymen.

How many power punchers has Wilder defeated ?

[War Room]

Can he knockout Z Money though? Wilder couldn't!

[billeau2]

How many power punchers has Wilder defeated ?

Why is that important? What has that got to do with anything? How many power punchers are there in the division right now? that are not prospects?

[REDEEMER]

Why is that important? What has that got to do with anything? How many power punchers are there in the division right now? that are not prospects?

Because you said Wilder is a rare bird and somewhat exceptional. You said he can live off one punch while others can’t, in the past .


The problem with that is his opponents didn’t offer much threat coming back at him so it enabled him to get away with a multitude of stuff.That’s why . There’s no evidence he would be as successful against other power punchers ,his best power puncher he defeated was Breazeale which others have as well ,that isn’t a special thing .


It’s also important because I think he’s packing glass always have . I think he’s a rare bird while being very badly skilled and lucky enough to be 6”7 while weighing around 220 or below at times and being successful but that’s only because he can punch and has carefully selected certain guys in certain times .