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  • just the facts
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    #41
    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
    He also beats everyone on Wilder’s resume besides Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury.
    You can't really be this dumb...........

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      #42
      Originally posted by just the facts

      You can't really be this dumb...........
      Who do you think defeats Ajagba on Wilders resume ?

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        #43
        Lol thank you!

        I excluded the two names who aren’t garbage.

        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Who do you think defeats Ajagba on Wilders resume ?

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          #44
          Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
          Lol thank you!

          I excluded the two names who aren’t garbage.


          Notice I didn’t get any answer ? I think Ajagba would smash through Ortiz to though and land at some point . It wouldn’t really matter Ajagba a far bigger threat to wilder because he hits much harder then Ortiz and is similar size to Wilder , and we know Wilder hates jabs he couldn’t even out jab Washington.

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            #45
            Originally posted by REDEEMER

            Because you said Wilder is a rare bird and somewhat exceptional. You said he can live off one punch while others can’t, in the past .


            The problem with that is his opponents didn’t offer much threat coming back at him so it enabled him to get away with a multitude of stuff.That’s why . There’s no evidence he would be as successful against other power punchers ,his best power puncher he defeated was Breazeale which others have as well ,that isn’t a special thing .


            It’s also important because I think he’s packing glass always have . I think he’s a rare bird while being very badly skilled and lucky enough to be 6”7 while weighing around 220 or below at times and being successful but that’s only because he can punch and has carefully selected certain guys in certain times .
            There is evidence... you mentioned it (Breazeale). Whatever he is packing he is able to not get beat because of his lack of skills. He lost to arguably the bestheavyweight out there... He managed to compensate in his other matches.

            Yes only because he can punch... He is fighting from the same pool as any other top tier heavyweight in the division. That is a fact. Sure we can split hairs about who could beat him, but you said it yourself... he beat another puncher, he has been succesful against every fighter except Fury. Ortiz, whether you like him, or not, is a skilled opponent, or was at that time during their fights... I mention Ortiz because IMO this was a big win for Wilder. He was losing the second fight with Ortiz.

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              #46
              Originally posted by billeau2

              There is evidence... you mentioned it (Breazeale). Whatever he is packing he is able to not get beat because of his lack of skills. He lost to arguably the bestheavyweight out there... He managed to compensate in his other matches.

              Yes only because he can punch... He is fighting from the same pool as any other top tier heavyweight in the division. That is a fact. Sure we can split hairs about who could beat him, but you said it yourself... he beat another puncher, he has been succesful against every fighter except Fury. Ortiz, whether you like him, or not, is a skilled opponent, or was at that time during their fights... I mention Ortiz because IMO this was a big win for Wilder. He was losing the second fight with Ortiz.
              Who has Wilder defeated that puts him ahead of some heavyweights ? A.J has defeated the better boxer punchers that’s not even disputable.

              Fury has beating Klitschko but couldn’t do much to him so it was one of the worst heavyweight fights for a tile of all time .


              Ortiz is good but his best win was 6 yrs ago, No top fighter actually fought him in his peak years and Wilder was lucky the bell rang in the 7th .

              Wilder would always be losing to Ortiz because he doesn’t win rounds against most guys ,that’s just a fact .


              Wilder hadn’t been successful against the heavyweight fighters that count the top heavyweight fighters . He’s unproven, Breazeale never landed a solid shot on him and he’s slower then Joyce is and doesn’t have half the skill for timing shots ..yet was able to stun him with a glancing blow .

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                #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                Who has Wilder defeated that puts him ahead of some heavyweights ? A.J has defeated the better boxer punchers that’s not even disputable.

                Fury has beating Klitschko but couldn’t do much to him so it was one of the worst heavyweight fights for a tile of all time .


                Ortiz is good but his best win was 6 yrs ago, No top fighter actually fought him in his peak years and Wilder was lucky the bell rang in the 7th .

                Wilder would always be losing to Ortiz because he doesn’t win rounds against most guys ,that’s just a fact .


                Wilder hadn’t been successful against the heavyweight fighters that count the top heavyweight fighters . He’s unproven, Breazeale never landed a solid shot on him and he’s slower then Joyce is and doesn’t have half the skill for timing shots ..yet was able to stun him with a glancing blow .
                So? Who cares if Aj defeated better, or worse? Whats the point? Nobody has defeated anyone that great because the division is not that great.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  So? Who cares if Aj defeated better, or worse? Whats the point? Nobody has defeated anyone that great because the division is not that great.
                  The topic is why Wilder is exceptional and a rare bird ( you said that ) , you went around everything logical I asked , so you know your just blowing smoke into Wilders legend....ha


                  What I like about you is your just smart enough to swerve around my questions and real facts about his resume concerning Wilder so that yours dont get answered, as far as I’m concerned your with the weirdo kids at the lunch table who just go against everything logical and want to be those kids who stand out but don’t actually make much sense and want to create a scene ..I’m convinced and Joyce doesn’t hit hard .? Is a perfect example how out of touch you are . ..you’re a real head case and honestly spent to much time in the history section . .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 04-13-2021, 11:11 PM.

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                    #49
                    Mmm nah yet we seeing him following the wilder plan pad record get an open belt or 1 vs easiest champ milk it build rivalry with flip hrgovic n tony yoka for future rival showdown 4-5 yrs from now similar to aj wilder fury whyte gonna be the povetkin of that era old guy name still fights pretty good yet if need a name thats the go too lol

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER
                      The topic is why Wilder is exceptional and a rare bird ( you said that ) , you went around everything logical I asked , so you know your just blowing smoke into Wilders legend....ha


                      What I like about you is your just smart enough to swerve around my questions and real facts about his resume concerning Wilder so that yours dont get answered, as far as I’m concerned your with the weirdo kids at the lunch table who just go against everything logical and want to be those kids who stand out but don’t actually make much sense and want to create a scene ..I’m convinced and Joyce doesn’t hit hard .? Is a perfect example how out of touch you are . ..you’re a real head case and honestly spent to much time in the history section . .
                      You're comparing a guy who KO'd cans and has UDs to a guy who KO'd cans and never took any can the full scheduled fight while claiming the latter is not more rare than the former.


                      Or to say that differently, Efe's resume is a regular as **** resume for a power puncher. Wilder's resume not only has better names than Efe's, but also a better KO percentage having KO'd every man he's ever faced who is not Tyson. Efe did not KO every man. These men are in no stretch on Dom's level. These are the types of guys dudes like Ortiz and Breazeale beat to get ranked. Efe handles them about like Dom had. Mostly Kos....mostly. Conversely, what makes Wilder special is it's all KOs. At the level Efe is at Wilder did nothing but KO. One is far more rare than the other, you're a mook.

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