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Is Boots better than bud and spence? Could he beat them?

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  • #21
    I think he beats Crawford, but not Spence and Porter.

    I think Spence is the best guy in division. And Porter would be a big problem for that kids, because of his style.

    Ugas - Boots would be interesting, but Ugas will lose his belt to Spence.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by The Viper View Post

      Crawford switches right to left like ennis and is more tatical than errol in my opinion. crawford seems to fight to his level imo.......
      Yeah Crawford would definitely be the most difficult fight for Ennis. No two ways about it. There are levels to this fight game. You cannot buy experience. Spence would beat him right now too..

      We boxing fans do this all the time. Boots did what we all expect him to do. I went as far to say if he doesn’t get Sergei out by the 9th round then I would be shocked.

      Spence style wise would be easier, Bud? He wouldn’t even touch him right now.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SweetPbfAli View Post

        I don't think Spence has a chance other than to carry Boots fast and pressure him. Spence is really good at many things but he's average when it comes to athleticism and speed. He's not "twitchy" I guess is the word. He did mix it up against Danny and boxed against Mikey but I feel like that's an adaptation to something he's unable to do physically more than something he's willingly doing like he told us against Mikey. Also, is Boots can somehow make Spence back up, then he has no shot. Crawford, at the least can fight going forward or backwards. He hasn't done it much as of late and I'm not sure why. Maybe trying to be more exciting? But I also think his natural temperament is aggressive which causes him to get caught with some silly shots.

        I do agree that Spence is closer in size but I'm unsure how much it will matter. Spence best weapon imo is his jab but I can see Boots taking that away. I think he's 50/50 versus either guy btw since I think both Crawford and Spence have already peaked.
        Crawford really can't fight going backwards. He walks back in straight lines with his hands down. Spence goes back in straight lines too, but he keeps a high guard and parries. Spence showed me more backwards ability in the Porter fight than Crawford has recently. Spence is faster than you think bro, he just fights guys smaller than him so he doesn't look as fast. Boots is just really ****ing quick like freak athlete quick, like I said Boots is capable of beating both, I just think right now he has a way better chance at beating one of them than the other given his experience level.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva View Post

          No the **** he is not. Lmao Boots literally switches stances to switch angles in the middle of his combinations. Crawford don't do anything close to that with his switching. Boots literally hits and peppers you with punches the whole damn time from all angles. He doesn't ever fight a single round in the same stance. Crawford will fight whole rounds in a single stance.

          Not to mention even at 23, and with a lot of baby on his body(Boots hasn't gotten his man strength yet, neither has Vergil Ortiz either, but that's a different topic and a fantastic fight down the road), he hits very ****ing hard, much harder than Crawford. He LIFTED Lipinets off his feet with that left uppercut for the knockout. This isn't even in the same realm here Ennis is the much bigger and stronger guy. Ennis may end up at 168 or 175 depending on how his career goes. Crawford's ceiling is 154 max.
          Are you serious lol? Your suffering from a severe case of recency bias. Jaron can switch stance as much as he wants against flat-footed fighters, that’s why it looks so good. Thing is he hasn’t mastered any stance yet, hence the constant stance switching, whenever he gets hit he changes his stance. Bud has mastered every stance, he can beat you even in unfavorable stance. I mean I guess Boots hasn’t grown into his “man-body” yet but what does that have to do with Bud? He hits hard but harder than Bud? Based on what? Because he stopped Lipinets? Lol. Do you know how many people Bud stopped who have “never been stopped before”? Lol, if you want me to be real honest Lipinets is pretty much tailor-made for Boots, He doesn’t move his feet & has T-Rex arms a.k.a a walking punching bag (to Ennis). Yeah, ennis is the bigger guy, but how many of Bud’s opponents were the “bigger guys”? You know what they all have in common, they all went home with a “L”. I can’t believe y’all are out here saying Boots can beat Bud & Spence because he beat “Sergei Lipinets” lol.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by PinkGod View Post

            Are you serious lol? Your suffering from a severe case of recency bias. Jaron can switch stance as much as he wants against flat-footed fighters, that’s why it looks so good. Thing is he hasn’t mastered any stance yet, hence the constant stance switching, whenever he gets hit he changes his stance. Bud has mastered every stance, he can beat you even in unfavorable stance. I mean I guess Boots hasn’t grown into his “man-body” yet but what does that have to do with Bud? He hits hard but harder than Bud? Based on what? Because he stopped Lipinets? Lol. Do you know how many people Bud stopped who have “never been stopped before”? Lol, if you want me to be real honest Lipinets is pretty much tailor-made for Boots, He doesn’t move his feet & has T-Rex arms a.k.a a walking punching bag (to Ennis). Yeah, ennis is the bigger guy, but how many of Bud’s opponents were the “bigger guys”? You know what they all have in common, they all went home with a “L”. I can’t believe y’all are out here saying Boots can beat Bud & Spence because he beat “Sergei Lipinets” lol.
            Crawford has not mastered a stance bro. He applies pressure as an Orthodox, and boxes in Southpaw. He cannot switch fluently between stances at all because he uses them for two different purposes. Boots switches stances in the middle of his combinations, and never misses a beat in his offense or defense. And yes he hits harder than Crawford, when has Crawford ever picked ANYBODY up off their feet with a ****ing punch. NEVER. You say that like everybody Crawford has fought since he got to 147 isn't tailor made for him too. Benavidez, Brook, Mean Machine all have the same damn style. Horn comes in a straight line, wide, and never changes levels behind no jab. Amir Khan? He had to low blow him to get him out of there. Lipinets is just as good a win for Ennis at WW than anyone Crawford has fought at 147. Boots will brutalize Crawford, I wish they would fight I would love to take your money on this one.
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            • #26
              Lmfao you fangirls are funny

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              • #27
                I have been very critical of Ennis until now due to the lack of credible competition on his resume, but Lipinets is a real good start. And the manner in which he did it was impressive so props to the boy.

                Spence is The Truth and a step too far for Ennis right now, but down the line who knows, lets see how he develops. Crawford's resume isn't much better than Ennis' so that would be a good fight to make

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                  I have been very critical of Ennis until now due to the lack of credible competition on his resume, but Lipinets is a real good start. And the manner in which he did it was impressive so props to the boy.

                  Spence is The Truth and a step too far for Ennis right now, but down the line who knows, lets see how he develops. Crawford's resume isn't much better than Ennis' so that would be a good fight to make
                  isnt lipinets horrible though? he couldnt even beat erik bone or cussio clayton. its a start but that guy was overrated as hell based on mikey garcia beating him so that somehow made him good without a resume?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by sicko View Post
                    More Talented and Physical Gifted than both honest but that doesn't mean he is better than and can beat both of them right now, not say that at all. HOWEVER, out of all the fighters and rising contenders that are on the rise, THAT is the one I would be keeping a close eye on the most. He is probably the biggest potential threat but most of them kind already know that so they will pretend like he doesn't exist and completely ignore him and try to down play him and free him out and tell him "He Needs To Fight Somebody..." "Who Has He Fought" "He Is Not A Draw" you know the typical excuses in this ERA when Fans don't want their favorite fighter to fight a certain fighter.

                    Only 23 so he has nothing but TIME so he don't have to rush or beg for a shot or any of that. He will earn his shot regardless if it is at 147 or if he gets them at 154
                    hes only 23 he still young doe! like tank!

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                    • #30
                      He would beat both.
                      23 is when a young man is at his best.
                      Bud although he's my favorite fighter would be a 50/50,cause of Buds age.
                      He would destroy errols jaw in 9 rounds.

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