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  • Bain01D
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee

    I wouldn't consider Whyte a champion with that WBA piece of ****. But the fight is quite interesting.

    Wilder won't fight him. I'm not really interested in a 3rd Chisora fight. Parker yes, but i see Chisora beating him and making it a non starter. Anyone else he could fight?
    Andy Ruiz maybe? That’s interesting!

    Shame they couldn’t make the Wilder fight as it makes sense for all

    Maybe Wallin? The other fighters there or thereabouts are tied up, Joyce, Usyk etc

    What about Hunter? Or the fact he couldn’t beat Povetkin loses attraction?

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    • _Rexy_
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ray*
      Franklin is terrible, looks like they are targeting an American boxer for Whyte to fight in America. Seriously don’t see anyone that fits the Bill. Maybe Bryan with the regular belt? They need an American that can talk trash like Whyte would.
      Get Big Baby Miller. They both piss hot and talk trash.

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      • Ray*
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        #23
        Originally posted by _Rexy_

        Get Big Baby Miller. They both piss hot and talk trash.
        Isn’t he ban for life?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Ray*

          Isn’t he ban for life?
          This is boxing, nobody gets banned for life

          They just get banned until they're marketable again, or people forget.


          I just checked. 2 year ban for Nevada. That didn't seem to prevent Eddie from getting Chavez Jr a fight somehow...

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            #25
            Originally posted by sayf

            Ortiz? He's become practically irrelevant, with him being so old, inactive, unknown and only fighting cab drivers. His claim to fame is being knocked out twice by Wilder. He's literally the worst option for Whyte in terms of risk vs reward. If he wins Ortiz it's old so it doesn't count, and if he loses he's shot. At least fighting Bryan, he gets a "title" he can use to market himself in the US, then set up the Wilder after he finishes his course of antidepressants and has a tune up.
            Well, that would be an easy fight for Whyte then, no? Ortiz is a top 10 fighter despite his age in pretty much every ranking. Whyte has been avoiding that fight including when it meant landing his mandatory. With Miller out of action, if Whyte wants a name for his US debut, it outta be Ortiz or Ruiz or Hunter (other than Wilder). Even Hearns said that they aren't looking for the Wilder fight next but later in the year. So, that makes sense.

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            • Sid-Knee
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              #26
              Originally posted by Bain01D

              Andy Ruiz maybe? That’s interesting!

              Shame they couldn’t make the Wilder fight as it makes sense for all

              Maybe Wallin? The other fighters there or thereabouts are tied up, Joyce, Usyk etc

              What about Hunter? Or the fact he couldn’t beat Povetkin loses attraction?
              Ruiz i like, but that's if he'll take it should he come through Chris.

              Wallin isn't too bad. Should be easy to set up too.

              Hunter's decent, but he's got the IBF mandatory fight coming up with Hrgovic. The winner won't want to fight anyone tough before getting their shot. It would have been perfect otherwise. But yeah, i like Ruiz the best out of those options. It has the most credibility too. Plus there's been a bit of back and forth between them in the past so there's no love lost between them. But we'll have to wait and see how it plays out. Hearn has mentioned a couple of names for Whyte in the US. But they're not really going to set the place on fire or anything.

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              • Jkp
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                #27
                Originally posted by _Rexy_

                This is boxing, nobody gets banned for life

                They just get banned until they're marketable again, or people forget.


                I just checked. 2 year ban for Nevada. That didn't seem to prevent Eddie from getting Chavez Jr a fight somehow...
                Yep. Ukad bans can be ignored completely if you have right connections. Just ask dillian dianabol whyte, Tyson Fury, hughie fury

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Zelda

                  Well, that would be an easy fight for Whyte then, no? Ortiz is a top 10 fighter despite his age in pretty much every ranking. Whyte has been avoiding that fight including when it meant landing his mandatory. With Miller out of action, if Whyte wants a name for his US debut, it outta be Ortiz or Ruiz or Hunter (other than Wilder). Even Hearns said that they aren't looking for the Wilder fight next but later in the year. So, that makes sense.
                  Makes sense, whyte and matchroom love cherry picking 40+ year old has beens

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                    #29
                    [QUOTE=Zelda;n30847924]

                    Well, that would be an easy fight for Whyte then, no? Ortiz is a top 10 fighter despite his age in pretty much every ranking. Whyte has been avoiding that fight including when it meant landing his mandatory. With Miller out of action, if Whyte wants a name for his US debut, it outta be Ortiz or Ruiz or Hunter (other than Wilder). Even Hearns said that they aren't looking for the Wilder fight next but later in the year. So, that makes sense.[/QUOTE ]

                    Don't get me wrong, Ortiz is a great fight, and in all honesty my money would be on him for win inside the distance. I was trying to make a point from Whyte's perspective. Ortiz gets him nothing other than respect from the guys who follow boxing every day. Unfortunately for Whyte, and Ortiz, that doesn't pay the bills. They'd make no money as neither is going to be a massive draw in the USA. The risk to Whyte's career is huge, he just managed to get back his number 1 spot, it'd be crazy to throw it all away before a title shot. Also as I said, before, if Whyte wins he won't get any recognition as everyone would just bring up his age and blood pressure. It's a lose lose fight for Whyte, but a great opportunity for Ortiz, for that reason I can't see it happening ever.
                    It's not an ideal situation, but the heavyweight division is garbage right now, so there aren't many options for Whyte in America other than Bryan, Wilder and maybe Big baby. Wilder is the money fight, Bryan should give him a guaranteed shot at the title but it won't sell well. Big baby would be a good name to put on his resume and announce himself there, but again it won't pay well and could end badly.

                    He really should just put the pressure on the
                    WBC and others he's number 1 at to get a shot.
                    He has an outside chance of winning, but most likely he'll end up on his back out cold from either Joshua or Fury

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      If Ortiz is so old and shot then it should be an easy fight for Shyte, which is what he claims he wants next.
                      It's not about easy or not, it's about what he'd gain from it. Ortiz doesn't bring any money, and would likely beat Whyte with his skill and power. Whyte needs a title fight, win or lose at least he makes bank before becoming a journeyman or retiring. He's not likely to make it back to a title fight from another devastating loss like he did against Povetkin.
                      Wilder is a great fight for him, but his problem is that he's so open so he'd probably end up on Wilder's highlight reel brutally KOd. It would make sense financially though so it's worth a shot
                      Last edited by sayf; 04-11-2021, 11:07 AM.

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