Comments Thread For: Zurdo Ramirez: Oscar De La Hoya Can Make Me Even Bigger, Turn Me Into A Superstar

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Wtf are you talking about lol...he basically made the PBC roster who they are lmao.

that was Richard Schaefer. During that time Oscar was too busy blowing through coke while dressed in drag, which was the reason they were all so easily able to leave golden boy for pbc.

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Avoid Bivol+Beterbiev and hope Canelo gives you a payday seems like the plan.

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that was Richard Schaefer. During that time Oscar was too busy blowing through coke while dressed in drag, which was the reason they were all so easily able to leave golden boy for pbc.

How does DLH the owner of the company not get credit for all the stars his company created? lmao Schaefer was his employee. If Schaefer was so important why has he done nothing since leaving GB? You blame DLH for his fighters leaving but that's because of shady contracts Schaefer had which is why Schaefer was sued and why damages were paid to GB because of it. You can't have it both ways give DLH no credit for his company's success and blame for failures in those contracts. You have to give the owner of the company all the blame and all the success.

It's been 7 years since Schaefer left. Canelo became a bigger star under GB after Schaefer left then he was when he was there. They also made Ryan Garcia and Vergil Ortiz after Schaefer left. Meanwhile where is any stars Schaefer has made since leaving GB? Schaefer promotional company is a disaster has built no stars and is now defunct.

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How does DLH the owner of the company not get credit for all the stars his company created? lmao Schaefer was his employee. If Schaefer was so important why has he done nothing since leaving GB? You blame DLH for his fighters leaving but that's because of shady contracts Schaefer had which is why Schaefer was sued and why damages were paid to GB because of it. You can't have it both ways give DLH no credit for his company's success and blame for failures in those contracts. You have to give the owner of the company all the blame and all the success.

It's been 7 years since Schaefer left. Canelo became a bigger star under GB after Schaefer left then he was when he was there. They also made Ryan Garcia and Vergil Ortiz after Schaefer left. Meanwhile where is any stars Schaefer has made since leaving GB? Schaefer promotional company is a disaster has built no stars and is now defunct.

1. Everyone knew that Schaefer was running the show at golden boy back then. Floyd said that on numerous occasions and said the only reason he worked with golden boy was because of Schaefer. Oscar was basically a figure head. That whole roster that’s now with pbc were managed by Al Haymon then and Schaefer was doing the actual promoting. Oscar wasn’t doing anything but getting coked up. Schaefer was able to eventually do his shady business with the contracts because Oscar wasn’t involved and had no clue. And the reason they did it was because Oscar was getting paid off of their work and they were the ones building the fighters towards stardom. Oscar was irrelevant in what was going on. 2. I said Oscar helped to make 1 star which was canelo, so you bringing him up and saying he became a bigger star doesn’t go against my original point. Not to mention, canelo got tired of Oscar not being an actual promoter which is why he left recently. 3. Ryan Garcia and Ortiz aren’t actual stars in boxing right now. They have 0 world titles between them and haven’t put up any sort of relevant Ppv or ratings numbers yet. Instagram followers don’t count. 4. The original point of the article was whether Oscar can make a star out of Ramirez. No chance he’s becoming a star at 30 years old with 0 fights on his record that anyone cares about.

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that was Richard Schaefer. During that time Oscar was too busy blowing through coke while dressed in drag, which was the reason they were all so easily able to leave golden boy for pbc.

The old “Richard was running GBP” myth lmao. Where’s the snake now? Oh right irrelevancy...I mean if Oscar had nothing to do with the success of GBP and the snake had everything to do with it, then why hasn’t he been able to replicate that same success elsewhere? Say like at PBC? Back then, before the snake and the ****** Haymon thuggishly stole GBP roster, great boxing events were the norm and boxing itself was thriving, and all of it had to do with Oscar himself, because his record shows that he matches his guys though and he what’s seeks challenges. Now, you basically have a cornucopia of entitled cowards and classless thugs over at PBC, while GBPs fighters are seeking greatness even if they risk taking a loss. I mean Ortiz wants Bud, Ryan wants tank, and Canelo has always challenged himself by facing the best. Is it any coincidence? No, that’s the culture that Oscar created in his company, it is what he instilled in his fighters, and it is what made his company successful, not a ****** snake like Schafer.

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1. Everyone knew that Schaefer was running the show at golden boy back then. Floyd said that on numerous occasions and said the only reason he worked with golden boy was because of Schaefer. Oscar was basically a figure head. That whole roster that’s now with pbc were managed by Al Haymon then and Schaefer was doing the actual promoting. Oscar wasn’t doing anything but getting coked up. Schaefer was able to eventually do his shady business with the contracts because Oscar wasn’t involved and had no clue. And the reason they did it was because Oscar was getting paid off of their work and they were the ones building the fighters towards stardom. Oscar was irrelevant in what was going on. 2. I said Oscar helped to make 1 star which was canelo, so you bringing him up and saying he became a bigger star doesn’t go against my original point. Not to mention, canelo got tired of Oscar not being an actual promoter which is why he left recently. 3. Ryan Garcia and Ortiz aren’t actual stars in boxing right now. They have 0 world titles between them and haven’t put up any sort of relevant Ppv or ratings numbers yet. Instagram followers don’t count. 4. The original point of the article was whether Oscar can make a star out of Ramirez. No chance he’s becoming a star at 30 years old with 0 fights on his record that anyone cares about.

Owners of companies hire people to run the business. lmao DLH is too big time to run the day to day of all the businesses he owns. Just because you are not hands on and run all day to day tasks don't mean you are not responsible for the success of your business. He hired people to run it schaefer was just one of many who could of done this job. Schaefer was also easily replaced and their biggest star became bigger and they developed more stars. Ryan Garcia isn't a star because he doesn't have a belt? lmao There are hundreds of world champs who have belts and will never have the celebrity and star power Garcia has right now. Belts don't make you a star. You have whatever personal agenda against DLH but Schaefer has done nothing since he left. DLH created a successful Promotional company and has made multiple stars during that time with and without schaefer.

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The old “Richard was running GBP” myth lmao. Where’s the snake now? Oh right irrelevancy...I mean if Oscar had nothing to do with the success of GBP and the snake had everything to do with it, then why hasn’t he been able to replicate that same success elsewhere? Say like at PBC? Back then, before the snake and the ****** Haymon thuggishly stole GBP roster, great boxing events were the norm and boxing itself was thriving, and all of it had to do with Oscar himself, because his record shows that he matches his guys though and he what’s seeks challenges. Now, you basically have a cornucopia of cowards over at PBC, while GBPs fighters are seeking greatness even if they risk taking a loss. I mean Ortiz wants Bud, Ryan wants tank, and Canelo has always challenged himself by facing the best. Is it any coincidence? No, that’s the culture that Oscar created in his company, it is what he instilled in his fighters, and it is what made his company successful, not a ****** snake like Schafer.

if Oscar was involved as you say, then why were those contracts put into place without his knowledge? Why wasn’t Oscar at the mayweather vs canelo fight? Why did all of those fighters willingly leave him? It’s because he was too busy sniffing coke and wearing fishnets. Schaefer had a non compete, sound to stay away for a while, was offered a role with mayweather and pbc that he declined and tried his own thing and it didn’t work out. Doesn’t change the fact that he was the one doing all the promoting back then. I mean, Don king isn’t relevant now but it doesn’t change what he did back in the day as a promoter. As far as chasing greatness, you lost me when you mentioned Ryan Garcia. He said he wanted tank and then bailed because he said he was going to fight Pacquiao. How did that turn out? Lmaoooo he’s a fkn clown. Let’s see if Oscar is willing to really make Ortiz and Crawford or if he tried to stall it out the way he did Canelo and ggg.

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Owners of companies hire people to run the business. lmao DLH is too big time to run the day to day of all the businesses he owns. Just because you are not hands on and run all day to day tasks don't mean you are not responsible for the success of your business. He hired people to run it schaefer was just one of many who could of done this job. Schaefer was also easily replaced and their biggest star became bigger and they developed more stars. Ryan Garcia isn't a star because he doesn't have a belt? lmao There are hundreds of world champs who have belts and will never have the celebrity and star power Garcia has right now. Belts don't make you a star. You have whatever personal agenda against DLH but Schaefer has done nothing since he left. DLH created a successful Promotional company and has made multiple stars during that time with and without schaefer.

now you’re trying to deviate from the point. I proved that Oscar didn’t do sh**, he was a figure head who was coked out of his mind. Now you wanna say , ohh he didn’t have time, he’s too big. But he wasn’t too busy to be a drug addict in drag. He was a sloppy businessman and got taken advantage of because of it. He did next to nothing to develop those other guys. As far as Ryan, the purpose is to be a star in the sport of boxing. So yes, being a world champion means something. If you’re one of these millennial minded morons who’s impressed with Instagram followers, then you just have a different perception of what being a boxing star is than I do.

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now you’re trying to deviate from the point. I proved that Oscar didn’t do sh**, he was a figure head who was coked out of his mind. Now you wanna say , ohh he didn’t have time, he’s too big. But he wasn’t too busy to be a drug addict in drag. He was a sloppy businessman and got taken advantage of because of it. He did next to nothing to develop those other guys. As far as Ryan, the purpose is to be a star in the sport of boxing. So yes, being a world champion means something. If you’re one of these millennial minded morons who’s impressed with Instagram followers, then you just have a different perception of what being a boxing star is than I do.

He's the owner nobody is saying he handles matchmaking and all the job titles with the company. DLH owns how many business it would be impossible for him to run everything for each one. Schaefer didn't run everything himself at GB by the way. Does Mayweather not deserve credit for successes Mayweather Promotions has? Is Mayweather not responsible for building Tank? Or do you think Lenarard Ellerbe and all the people Mayweather pays to run his company did that? lmao If Ellerbe started his own promotional company he would be where Schaefer is at right now, irrelevant. Mayweather could hire another person to run day to day operations and Mayweather Promotions would still be successful. Same with DLH. DLH's company has created many stars with and after Schaefer, Schaefer without DLH has created none. You are overrating the impact Schaefer has and underrating the one man who is the one constant at GB. Ryan has more celebrity, fame and makes more money then hundreds of Belt holders. Belts don't make you a star. Ryan is already a star.

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He's the owner nobody is saying he handles matchmaking and all the job titles with the company. DLH owns how many business it would be impossible for him to run everything for each one. Schaefer didn't run everything himself at GB by the way. Does Mayweather not deserve credit for successes Mayweather Promotions has? Is Mayweather not responsible for building Tank? Or do you think Lenarard Ellerbe and all the people Mayweather pays to run his company did that? lmao If Ellerbe started his own promotional company he would be where Schaefer is at right now, irrelevant. Mayweather could hire another person to run day to day operations and Mayweather Promotions would still be successful. Same with DLH. DLH's company has created many stars with and after Schaefer, Schaefer without DLH has created none. You are overrating the impact Schaefer has and underrating the one man who is the one constant at GB. Ryan has more celebrity, fame and makes more money then hundreds of Belt holders. Belts don't make you a star. Ryan is already a star.

you’re now trying to talk generally. Yes , generally the owner of a promotional company is hands on and does actual promoting along with people he hires, the way Arum has for years. Oscar wasn’t doing that then. He let everyone else run things while he was doing his own thing with drugs and drag. Haymon was doing all of the managing and match making while Schaefer ran the promotions. I was actually at a mayweather vs canelo press conference. Oscar was nowhere to be found while Schaefer ran the show. Same deal happened on fight night. Oscar was barely involved with his fighters then and that’s why he got left highs dry.
Ryan is an Instagram star, not a boxing star. Like I said, you seem impressed by Instagram followers and that’s actually what’s made him popular. Not because of how Oscar has marketed him. He doesn’t even like Oscar. Oscar has helped to create 1 star and that’s canelo, who left him. Back to the main point, Ramirez isn’t becoming a star.