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  • Iceta
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    #41
    Originally posted by darkstar777
    Cloud's power is overrated, he couldn't even knock out a half-dead Julio Gonzalez, before that his list of knockouts were against bums that Dawson could of knocked out. Oh Adamek>>>>>>Cloud, the only thing Cloud has is a better offensive arsenal, other than that Adamek beats Cloud on everything else, even defense.
    Dude, you are all over the place with stuff that doesn't add up. First of all, Julio Gonzalez may have been faded but he had never been knocked off of his feet before and Cloud brutalized him. Same thing with Woods, only it went the distance. There are people on Dawson's resume that he went the distance with that Cloud would've taken out with no problem like Eric Harding. I think the version of Adamek that Dawson fought would give Cloud a run for his money, but I wouldn't be suprised to see Cloud come away with a victory. That is a tough one for me to call, I'll have to admit. But the part of where you say that Adamek has a better defense than Cloud is wrong in my opinion because he got hit with everything but the kitchen sink by Paul Briggs who is not that fast. Steve Cunningham is a pretty skilled and fast guy though.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Iceta
      Dude, you are all over the place with stuff that doesn't add up. First of all, Julio Gonzalez may have been faded but he had never been knocked off of his feet before and Cloud brutalized him. Same thing with Woods, only it went the distance. There are people on Dawson's resume that he went the distance with that Cloud would've taken out with no problem like Eric Harding. I think the version of Adamek that Dawson fought would give Cloud a run for his money, but I wouldn't be suprised to see Cloud come away with a victory. That is a tough one for me to call, I'll have to admit. But the part of where you say that Adamek has a better defense than Cloud is wrong in my opinion because he got hit with everything but the kitchen sink by Paul Briggs who is not that fast. Steve Cunningham is a pretty skilled and fast guy though.
      I was at the Cloud-Gonzalez fight ringside, and I can tell you that was a real ass whooping. Keep in mind, Gonzalez had never been stopped.

      I was also at both Adamek-Briggs fights. They were outstanding dude.
      Simply excellent.
      You know in the first one, Adamek fought with a broken nose he suffered in camp a couple of weeks before. Crazy man.

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        #43
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        I was at the Cloud-Gonzalez fight ringside, and I can tell you that was a real ass whooping. Keep in mind, Gonzalez had never been stopped.

        I was also at both Adamek-Briggs fights. They were outstanding dude.
        Simply excellent.


        You know in the first one, Adamek fought with a broken nose he suffered in camp a couple of weeks before. Crazy man.
        I loved watching those two fights between Adamek and Briggs. Those were wars.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Iceta
          I loved watching those two fights between Adamek and Briggs. Those were wars.

          You know the main events for those fights.

          Brewster-Golota (all 53 seconds of it)
          Valuev-Barrett (all 11 rounds of Barrett jumping up to try to punch Valuev)

          So thank god those fights were on. Baldomir was on the first card too (the fight before he beat Judah) as well as Collazo and Guillerimo Jones. Campbell fought on the second one as well as Kevin McBride who got abused by Mike Mollo LOL.

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            #45
            Originally posted by jreckoning
            You know the main events for those fights.

            Brewster-Golota (all 53 seconds of it)
            Valuev-Barrett (all 11 rounds of Barrett jumping up to try to punch Valuev)

            So thank god those fights were on. Baldomir was on the first card too (the fight before he beat Judah) as well as Collazo and Guillerimo Jones. Campbell fought on the second one as well as Kevin McBride who got abused by Mike Mollo LOL.
            i remember the mollo-mcbribe fight..did you watch the one with bob sheridan commentary? i couldnt stop laughing he was like "ooo!!! mollo ****S HIM BEHIND THE HEAD!!" i just couldnt stop laughing and on top of the way mcbride was getting knocked allover the place

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              #46
              Originally posted by tymann23
              i remember the mollo-mcbribe fight..did you watch the one with bob sheridan commentary? i couldnt stop laughing he was like "ooo!!! mollo ****S HIM BEHIND THE HEAD!!" i just couldnt stop laughing and on top of the way mcbride was getting knocked allover the place
              I was at the fights, so I didn't hear the commentary.
              McBride did hit the ground with a huge thud. LOL.
              He must've been 280 that night. Thud. Splat. on the floor in 2.
              I don't think he won a second of that fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jreckoning
                You know the main events for those fights.

                Brewster-Golota (all 53 seconds of it)
                Valuev-Barrett (all 11 rounds of Barrett jumping up to try to punch Valuev)

                So thank god those fights were on. Baldomir was on the first card too (the fight before he beat Judah) as well as Collazo and Guillerimo Jones. Campbell fought on the second one as well as Kevin McBride who got abused by Mike Mollo LOL.
                I just watched the Valuev-Barrett and Adamek-Briggs fights on HBO. I didn't attend the card.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  I was at the fights, so I didn't hear the commentary.
                  McBride did hit the ground with a huge thud. LOL.
                  He must've been 280 that night. Thud. Splat. on the floor in 2.
                  I don't think he won a second of that fight.
                  yea. i couldnt get my head around him beating tyson even as washed up as tyson was..i mean mcbride was so damn slow!! and he had no timing skills and didnt even pack much of a punch

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by tymann23
                    yea. i couldnt get my head around him beating tyson even as washed up as tyson was..i mean mcbride was so damn slow!! and he had no timing skills and didnt even pack much of a punch
                    I know what you mean. I mean at least Danny Williams had some skills and was a credible guy when he stopped Tyson but McBride, that dude made a tortoise look like a cheetah.

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                      #50
                      I think we will see a Johnson-Cloud fight before Dawson ever fights Cloud. Johnson will still be willing to fight anybody even if he gets beat by Dawson.

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