How would Mike Tyson vs David Tua in 1996-97 had went?

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #21
    Not sure why people think Tua will be invulnerable to Tyson's power?

    Everyone is talking as if? Tua is facing a heavyweight who could not punch.

    Mike Tyson in this fight does not have to worry about, closing down the range 'Tua is going to be right there'.

    David Tua is taking a lot of punches in this fight 'I am not so sure he survives'.

    Tua also may have good stamina, but he is incredible one paced 'A droning fighter'.

    Mike Tyson was never a ****** fighter, he would know that he would have to avoid Tua's left hook etc



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      #22
      Originally posted by 2Shotz
      Lewis literally had to pound on Tyson with dozens of right hands to drop Tyson after eight rounds. Tua tasted that smoke maybe once or twice then wanted nothing more of Lewis and refused to engage. The only guys who beat Mike knew how to tie him up and outbox/bomb him. Tua was, with all respect, a poor man’s Tyson. Same size. Same approach. If Tua came straight ahead looking for war w Tyson that’s a wet dream scenario. Fireworks. Too many tools and superior ambidextrous power. Tyson KO’s Tua and he does it inside seven rounds. Either that or Tua resorts for that bs pitty pat boxing refuse to engage like he did vs Byrd and Lewis and survives to lose on the cards. Either way, Tyson.
      Yes I have stated that both Tua & Tyson have elite level durability.

      Nobody has ever stopped Tyson in his tracks with a single punch, it took a heavy sustain bombardment.

      Even at the end of his career, Danny Williams detonated a 28 punch combination on Mike Tyson before he went down 'Still Tyson is coherent on the canvas, visibly concerned with his hurt leg'.

      The 1996/97 Mike Tyson was still coming in at 220 pounds, he was still in great physical condition 'Still doing things that was not normal for a heavyweight'. If that Mike Tyson appeared today, people would be in awe of his condition.

      Mike Tyson is not going to just disappear quickly in this fight, he did not disappear vs Holyfield 'And in all of his loses, his opponents always had to completely empty the tank to get him out of there'.

      Complete myth that he would disappear, when faced with resistance.

      David Tua would be right there in-front of him, yes he is tough and he hits hard. But so does Mike Tyson, with a whole array of punches.

      Tyson at no point in his career, was a one trick pony.

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      • Dakuwaqa
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        #23
        Tua was never that great. I see Tyson lighting him up

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          #24
          Originally posted by 2Shotz
          If Tua came straight ahead looking for war w Tyson that’s a wet dream scenario. Fireworks. .

          Oh baby! I get wet just thinking about that scenario.

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            #25
            99% of the time, if a guy hit Mike back, Mike tends to clinch and complain.

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            • Science
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              #26
              Tua is a bad matchup for Tyson...I think Tua's peak was early 2000s.

              This is a pick em up fight

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                #27
                Originally posted by BodyBagz
                99% of the time, if a guy hit Mike back, Mike tends to clinch and complain.
                This is a complete myth, a fairy-tale.

                Mike Tyson would never just disappear when faced with resistance, in order to beat him all fighters had to completely empty their tank.

                All this talk of 'Oh Tyson cannot fight on the back foot, who exactly made Tyson back up? Nobody'.

                Even against Lennox Lewis, Tyson did not back up.

                That is why you ether had to out box him or get him out of there etc

                I have never seen Mike Tyson back up in a fight, but I have seen him become static 'I have never seen him voluntary, want to back peddle'.

                David Tua in a short period of time, is going to be hit more than ever in this fight.

                A 1996/1997 Mike Tyson was 218-222 pounds, he was still in incredible condition 'If he appeared today, people would be in awe of his condition'.

                When Tyson fought Holyfield, that was not a easy fight for Holyfield he had to completely empty the tank.

                Holyfield would of beaten Tua easier than he did Tyson back then, could of so easily shut Tua out over 12 rounds.

                Note: Look at how Tua behaved in his losing fights compared to Tyson, Tua would just switch off and do completely nothing. Tua was strong and hit incredibly hard, but even at his peak he was not very creative. Lewis was not really trying to knocked Tua out for 12 rounds, just merely out pointing him.





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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Science
                  Tua is a bad matchup for Tyson...I think Tua's peak was early 2000s.

                  This is a pick em up fight
                  Why was he a bad match up?

                  His defense was not out of this world, he would of been right in-front of Mike Tyson 'And not hard to find'.

                  He ether survives Mike Tyson, then has success later on in the fight or 'He is beaten down badly'.

                  Did ike ibeabuchi really hit that hard? And both them fighters just stood in-front of each other 'Is that how he is going to fight Mike Tyson?'.

                  You are talking nonsense.

                  Note: This will be a exciting fight, and I don't think Tyson will blow Tua away inside 1-2 rounds. Tua is ether getting stopped within 6 rounds, or being pulled out later in the fight due to damage 'In a exciting fight, now and again he will **** away with his left hook' but overall he will just be getting hit too much.

                  I wonder how Razor Ruddock's smash compares to Tua's left hook ? 'And yes I know Tua hit hard in general with every one of his punches'.

                  This is Tua in 1997, fair enough he was tough strong fighter. But he is not beating Tyson just standing there, shoulder to shoulder. Tyson is still a in condition and very dangerous fighter during the mid-90's etc

                  The build up to the fight would be amazing, don't get me wrong 'This is a block buster fight'.

                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-11-2021, 05:13 AM.

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                    #29
                    Looks like the forum has just decided to delete half of my post.

                    What on earth? Completely ridiculous.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                      This is a complete myth, a fairy-tale.

                      Mike Tyson would never just disappear when faced with resistance, in order to beat him all fighters had to completely empty their tank.

                      All this talk of 'Oh Tyson cannot fight on the back foot, who exactly made Tyson back up? Nobody'.

                      Even against Lennox Lewis, Tyson did not back up.

                      That is why you ether had to out box him or get him out of there etc

                      I have never seen Mike Tyson back up in a fight, but I have seen him become static 'I have never seen him voluntary, want to back peddle'.

                      David Tua in a short period of time, is going to be hit more than ever in this fight.

                      A 1996/1997 Mike Tyson was 218-222 pounds, he was still in incredible condition 'If he appeared today, people would be in awe of his condition'.

                      When Tyson fought Holyfield, that was not a easy fight for Holyfield he had to completely empty the tank.

                      Holyfield would of beaten Tua easier than he did Tyson back then, could of so easily shut Tua out over 12 rounds.

                      Note: Look at how Tua behaved in his losing fights compared to Tyson, Tua would just switch off and do completely nothing. Tua was strong and hit incredibly hard, but even at his peak he was not very creative. Lewis was not really trying to knocked Tua out for 12 rounds, just merely out pointing him.




                      96-97
                      Mikes resume was just as weak as it was throughout -
                      Seldon (phantom ko),
                      Scared Britain Bruno, an entirely useless rematch
                      and the 2 Holy fights. Holy bullied the bully. Crying during the cliches. Most of which he initiated.

                      Skip ahead to 98 vs Botha (was this the fight Mike tried to break his opponents arm because he was hitting him back) ?

                      Tua fought -
                      Ruiz, serviceable, Izon, also serviceable, Oleg and Ike. Any of them would have smashed Seldon and Bruno.

                      As Holy did to him, Tua bullies the bully. Just mho.

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