Hey Wlad haters!, Ask yourself this...

[freirui]

One could make the case that he was behind on the cards in the TOS fight, at the time of the stoppage. TOS was rocking his ass left and right.

If you get hurt by a cruiserweight, then its time to hangem up. Because Wlad could get seriously hurt in the future.

You're a ****ing liar!!!

[PBDS]

You're a ****ing liar!!!

...Yeah, obviously this clown didn't see the fight or he is just plain lying to stir **** up.

[guru]

i like wlad, but until there's proof that something illegal happened against brewster, i'll have to say he folded from fatigue and pressure, most of it mental.... i know wlad threw just as many or more punches in other fights, but this was after the sanders KO and brewster to his credit, took an ass whippin and kept coming... i think wlad just punched himself out...

i also don't think wlad's chin is as bad people say, he's only been KO'd by punches once IMO... he doesnt have a steel chin, but its not glass either... lewis never had a great chin either.... I think wlad should take a few confidence building fights, get things rolling again... he doesn't need the byrd fight right now, he's still young and has time...

[Stickman]

i like wlad, but until there's proof that something illegal happened against brewster, i'll have to say he folded from fatigue and pressure, most of it mental.... i know wlad threw just as many or more punches in other fights, but this was after the sanders KO and brewster to his credit, took an ass whippin and kept coming... i think wlad just punched himself out...

i also don't think wlad's chin is as bad people say, he's only been KO'd by punches once IMO... he doesnt have a steel chin, but its not glass either... lewis never had a great chin either.... I think wlad should take a few confidence building fights, get things rolling again... he doesn't need the byrd fight right now, he's still young and has time...

Ahh....Sanity.

[tracylee]

Sorry, I apologize for the hasty post, it just seems that for whatever reason, I can't seem to make any observations without someone calling me some sort of whinebag, or sissy girl, or kid, etc. But it won't happen again, promise.

You dont owe me any apology...you only asked me a valid question, after all. No problems here!

[delroy02]

i like wlad, but until there's proof that something illegal happened against brewster, i'll have to say he folded from fatigue and pressure, most of it mental.... i know wlad threw just as many or more punches in other fights, but this was after the sanders KO and brewster to his credit, took an ass whippin and kept coming... i think wlad just punched himself out...

i also don't think wlad's chin is as bad people say, he's only been KO'd by punches once IMO... he doesnt have a steel chin, but its not glass either... lewis never had a great chin either.... I think wlad should take a few confidence building fights, get things rolling again... he doesn't need the byrd fight right now, he's still young and has time...

I think he can win the Byrd fight (especially in Germany). The way the first fight went, and the fact that Byrd is on the slide as well will see Vlad victorius.

However I do think that the fight could come too soon for him. His confidence must be pretty low at the moment. The win against Williamson probably did more harm than good. I hope he does regain his confidence as I rate him highly and I think he can still be a major force in the division

[guru]

yeah, unlike the wlad haters, i do think wlad has all the tools to stil be the "heir apparent"..... but also, unlike the wlad lovers, i believ he's a changed fighter from before the sanders and brewster loss and needs some rebuilding fights against guys like cley bey, harris or oleg....

[leff]

yeah, unlike the wlad haters, i do think wlad has all the tools to stil be the "heir apparent"..... but also, unlike the wlad lovers, i believ he's a changed fighter from before the sanders and brewster loss and needs some rebuilding fights against guys like cley bey, harris or oleg....

Well im a klitschko nuthugger and i agree that the sanders fight has changed him a lot.

A confident wlad would whop tos silly and ko him in 2 rounds.

[hollister]

Oh shut the hell up you shameless groupie and make no mistake thats exactly what you are a groupie. If I remember right you were the one who siad I must have been drugged when I posted "That garbage" now your bitching about people calling you names?

No one is going to have a civil conversation with you about Wlad because the second they say anything other than he's a legit fighter who will come to the top your gonna start to *****.

You have made ZERO points just excuses. Do you know how laughable these names are, Corrie Sanders, Ross Purity and Lamon Brewster? Do you? Maybe people are calling for him to retire because its obvious he is fighting scared now. Of course any boxing fan who doesn't have an agenda can tell you that. When you fight scared your only going to hurt yourself maybe thats why people are calling for him to hang it up.

You even said it yourself. Your exact words were



Well guess ****ing what? His ass better take up Tennis if he is panicing when he gets hit cause I dont know if you know this or not, boxing involves HITTING and getting HIT.

Now grow up, stop making excuse and throw Wlad's lifeless body on top of the heap with Jerry Cooney, Micheal Grant, Tommy Morrison and the countless other who were suppossed to be great and never amounted to anything.

You ****ing idiot...

I said you were drugged because you implied, again, that I was the one saying he was drugged in the Brewster fight. Although I thought the fight was awful strange, I never said anything like that, this is just another one of your futile attempts at making me seem irrational in order to make your posts sound more reasonable, and don't even try that **** about name calling because you and I both know we've both been calling each other names since long before now, because that's the only thing you know how to do when someone makes valid points and calls you on your biased "observations" of fighters and fights. The only reason I even brought it up is because certain people had posted their negative opinions about simple name calling instead of any productive debating between the Klit haters and Huggers, if that's how you'd like to refer to them. I just wanted to at least bring it to people's attention that the Klit "huggers" are not the only ones to engage it that type of behavior, as you almost always resort to insults and name calling when you're challenged, and by the way, that's right, I said he gets panicky, because I have the balls to call it like I see it, the good and the bad alike. How many successful fighters throughout history have fought "scared"? At least I have a realistic idea of what most fighters are about, and if a fighter I like has a flaw, I acknowledge it. That's far more than you have ever done since I've been on this site. You are one of those people that think you have to "win" every arguement, and your definition of winning seems to simply be getting the last word in, whether it makes sense or not. You say that no one can have a civilized debate with me because I'll fly off the handle as soon as someone says he's less than great? Do you even really read my posts? Have you ever tried to debate anything with me without attacking me and calling me some ****** **** like "groupie"? No, the answer is you have never tried to, and most likely never will, because the truth is you're the one who can never accept any opinion other than your own, and I've stopped making points because you never even tried to respond to any of them, starting with the first one I ever made, it's a waste of my time to make valid points to you because you never try to debate me, you just start that ****** **** you always resort to. Look over my posts, with exception to the ones with you, Jabbie, and Boxing collector, and you will see that I interact with others and treat others with much more respect than you ever have. I just treat you bad because it's the only thing you understand, you don't appreciate respect, you seem to think you deserve it because of who you are, and since you're nobody to me, I disagree. I feel I've done my part as far as trying to discuss fights and fighters in a civil manner with everyone, and will continue to do so with everyone else. Like I said, if you ever made an effort to make valid points and focused a little less on trying to humiliate people, I might respect you more, but as it stands, the more you post that bull****, the more people are going to see that you don't even come here to talk about boxing, you come here looking for an arguement, because it makes you feel good when you can make someone else stop posting, and for Christ's sake, invest in a ****ing speak and spell!

[hollister]

Listening to people justify every single one of Wladimir's losses, is similar in nature to Tyson. When Wlad loses, its because of malnutrition, foul-play, or some other circumstance. For Tyson, it might be an "injury", or the classic:
"if he trained" statement.

I just hope that's not directed at me, because I never said any of those things, I just don't think he's completely shot yet.