Hey Wlad haters!, Ask yourself this...

[+= El Jefe=+]

Saw this post on the another forum, and yes it is a Wlad sackrider who posted it, but he makes a good point.


***A punch does not cause a person's blood sugar to go ski high, nor does it cause a diabetic coma.

A punch does not cause a person's lips to turn blue.

From the second round on Vlad was hardly able to fight, yet he was not even punched then.

Vlad went 12 rounds non-stop punching againt Byrd, knocking Byrd down in the 9th and 11th rounds.

Vlad went 8 round full speed against Axel Shultz without any problem.

Vlad threw more punches Vs. Mercer, yet he did not get tired at all.

Vlad stopped McCline at the end of 10 rounds, Vlad was not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Botha in the 8th round, not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Shufford in the 6th round, not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Barrett in the 7th round, not tired at all.

So, why should Vlads pupil get wide, his lips turn blue at the beginning of a fight with Brewster? Who was in the video? That is one thing you can't cover up for sure. Not counting all the other things that happened. MRI did not show a concussion either. Silly kids do not know who Vlad really is and do not know how good he is either. I know boxing politics, just check out the FBI video of the IBF, which I have seen. Also check out the bust in Vegas, confessions, bribes, etc.*****

the only thing im askign myself is why are you making excuses??
he lost Get over it and wait for his next fight,
i dotn hate him but come on man GET OVER IT HE LOST.

[Stickman]

ok we will say that something was wrong in that fight, then klit lovers, please explain him getting dropped several times and humiliated by sanders? dont say sanders is a world class fighter either, the guy was old and out of shape, how many true champions get knocked out like that? that was embarrassing, and he looked like **** against tos too. he has a glass jaw people, deal with it!

I know other people have responded to this already, but I'll chime in here also:

Vlad was (and is) a young kid entering the ring against Sanders, a pretty seasoned fighter, with lightning fast hands, and as much (or more) power as any heavyweight on the planet, and a southpaw. He got caught with a big shot very early, lost his confidence, and still hasn't gotten it back. It's happened before in this sport, and it'll happen again. He really wasn't ready to fight someone like Sanders, who has a great chin and an even bigger punch, and the ability to make a hole to put it. Vlad Klitchko is a talented boxer, and carries dynamite in both hands, and if he ever gets his shattered self-confidence back, he'll breeze through the division with almost no effort at all. But.....that's the big IF....whether he'll ever get it back. He may, in a year or 3, when he gets around 30 or so, gain the confidence of a fully grown man, and come back, or he may not. Whether his chin is suspect really can't be determined at this point, though, because without self-confidence, a fighter doesn't have a chin. It's possible to have that confidence and still not have a good beard, but it's definitely not possible to have a good beard without self confidence. I'd like to see the kid get his head back on straight and help turn the division into one of the most exciting in history, but whether he can do it or not remains to be seen.

[freirui]

He got stopped three times, but was not knocked out three times, dip****. I keep bringing Lewis up because the majority of Klit haters are Lewis lovers, what's so irrational about that? I never, never said he was a great fighter, or was going to be, but when people start saying he should retire because of his losses...that's just plain ****ing ******. he was never knocked out on any occasion by a single punch, and yet Lewis, who was, on two separate occasions, according to some, has accomplished great things in spite of this, which I agree with. So why all the blind hate? I can admit that Wlad most likely won't be in the hall of fame. The problem is, some posters here can't admit that he isn't a bum. Now watch as you and other Klit haters resort to name calling, or re-posting the same three knockout ****, or some ****** implication that I was trying to say he was as good as Ali, or was going to dominate the world, or some other ****** **** that I never said or implied, all in an attempt to show everyone how irrational I am and how no "level-headed boxing fan" could ever have a normal ****ing conversation with me about boxing.

Great post!!!
I agree with you 100%!!!

[hollister]

Absolutely NOT! You have never, EVER disrespected me or any of my posts, not that I can remember! Anytime I've debated with you you've always acted like a grown up and left out the name calling and my private life! What Jose does is his business...I honestly havent seen him call anybody names that didnt call him some first. He's never called me any either. I can debate with him (and so can others) without worrying that he will make personal assumptions about me or call me an idiot

Sorry, I apologize for the hasty post, it just seems that for whatever reason, I can't seem to make any observations without someone calling me some sort of whinebag, or sissy girl, or kid, etc. But it won't happen again, promise.

[hollister]

Great post!!!
I agree with you 100%!!!

Lol Thanks

[freirui]

Saw this post on the another forum, and yes it is a Wlad sackrider who posted it, but he makes a good point.


***A punch does not cause a person's blood sugar to go ski high, nor does it cause a diabetic coma.

A punch does not cause a person's lips to turn blue.

From the second round on Vlad was hardly able to fight, yet he was not even punched then.

Vlad went 12 rounds non-stop punching againt Byrd, knocking Byrd down in the 9th and 11th rounds.

Vlad went 8 round full speed against Axel Shultz without any problem.

Vlad threw more punches Vs. Mercer, yet he did not get tired at all.

Vlad stopped McCline at the end of 10 rounds, Vlad was not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Botha in the 8th round, not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Shufford in the 6th round, not tired at all.

Vlad stopped Barrett in the 7th round, not tired at all.

So, why should Vlads pupil get wide, his lips turn blue at the beginning of a fight with Brewster? Who was in the video? That is one thing you can't cover up for sure. Not counting all the other things that happened. MRI did not show a concussion either. Silly kids do not know who Vlad really is and do not know how good he is either. I know boxing politics, just check out the FBI video of the IBF, which I have seen. Also check out the bust in Vegas, confessions, bribes, etc.*****

Very very very good points!!!
Klit haters are all idiots!!!

[hollister]

I know other people have responded to this already, but I'll chime in here also:

Vlad was (and is) a young kid entering the ring against Sanders, a pretty seasoned fighter, with lightning fast hands, and as much (or more) power as any heavyweight on the planet, and a southpaw. He got caught with a big shot very early, lost his confidence, and still hasn't gotten it back. It's happened before in this sport, and it'll happen again. He really wasn't ready to fight someone like Sanders, who has a great chin and an even bigger punch, and the ability to make a hole to put it. Vlad Klitchko is a talented boxer, and carries dynamite in both hands, and if he ever gets his shattered self-confidence back, he'll breeze through the division with almost no effort at all. But.....that's the big IF....whether he'll ever get it back. He may, in a year or 3, when he gets around 30 or so, gain the confidence of a fully grown man, and come back, or he may not. Whether his chin is suspect really can't be determined at this point, though, because without self-confidence, a fighter doesn't have a chin. It's possible to have that confidence and still not have a good beard, but it's definitely not possible to have a good beard without self confidence. I'd like to see the kid get his head back on straight and help turn the division into one of the most exciting in history, but whether he can do it or not remains to be seen.

I agree wholeheartedly, good observation!

[hollister]

Wlad has such a tendency to panic when he's hit, after the Sanders fight that it's hard to tell if he's even really hurt.

[Neuraxis]

I agree! He has size and power on his side, but you cant "make" or train a good chin....simple as that.

So does Lewis not count now? Lewis is the perfect example of this.

[Neuraxis]

Wlad has such a tendency to panic when he's hit, after the Sanders fight that it's hard to tell if he's even really hurt.

Agreed. That's what I've been saying all along. As if demonstrated here.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30037