Hey Wlad haters!, Ask yourself this...

[hollister]

I don't know about that. Look at Cotto and look at how much they hype him.

Yeah, they really have hyped the **** out of Cotto. My first time seeing him was against Corley, and I have to say that, although he seems to be a very good fighter, I expected more because of the way I heard people talk about him.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Yeah, they really have hyped the **** out of Cotto. My first time seeing him was against Corley, and I have to say that, although he seems to be a very good fighter, I expected more because of the way I heard people talk about him.

Yeah, same here, I do like his body punching, though..

[tracylee]

wlad should just help out in his brothers corner because he is all washed up

I agree! He has size and power on his side, but you cant "make" or train a good chin....simple as that. You dont have to be a "hater" or an idiot (as some have said ) to know that. It's tiresome when some Klit fans simply cant live with the fact that some of us just dont worship the Klits..and see weaknesses and limitations that ARE there; and when they cant stand it anymore the disrespectful name calling begins. Never fails! I miss Nautilus..he was the ONLY Klit fan ANYBODY here could debate these facts with and not get called a bunch of names..it's was beneath him, and he is truly missed (that touch of class is noticably absent from this site! )

[hollister]

I agree! He has size and power on his side, but you cant "make" or train a good chin....simple as that. You dont have to be a "hater" or an idiot (as some have said ) to know that. It's tiresome when some Klit fans simply cant live with the fact that some of us just dont worship the Klits..and see weaknesses and limitations that ARE there; and when they cant stand it anymore the disrespectful name calling begins. Never fails! I miss Nautilus..he was the ONLY Klit fan ANYBODY here could debate these facts with and not get called a bunch of names..it's was beneath him, and he is truly missed (that touch of class is noticably absent from this site! )

Is this directed at me?

How many fighters have gone on to have successful careers despite having flaws? I hope you're not throwing me in the crazy fan group, as I have always welcomed any and all to show me where I'm wrong, and like I said, I don't see him in the hall of fame, but to say he's garbage is as irrational as some of the things you guys say that Klit fans say about the Klits ( I have never personally heard most of these things said). And why is there nothing wrong with posters like Jose calling people names, I know you've seen it.

[tracylee]

Is this directed at me?

How many fighters have gone on to have successful careers despite having flaws? I hope you're not throwing me in the crazy fan group, as I have always welcomed any and all to show me where I'm wrong, and like I said, I don't see him in the hall of fame, but to say he's garbage is as irrational as some of the things you guys say that Klit fans say about the Klits ( I have never personally heard most of these things said). And why is there nothing wrong with posters like Jose calling people names, I know you've seen it.

Absolutely NOT! You have never, EVER disrespected me or any of my posts, not that I can remember! Anytime I've debated with you you've always acted like a grown up and left out the name calling and my private life! What Jose does is his business...I honestly havent seen him call anybody names that didnt call him some first. He's never called me any either. I can debate with him (and so can others) without worrying that he will make personal assumptions about me or call me an idiot

[PBDS]

I agree! He has size and power on his side, but you cant "make" or train a good chin....simple as that. You dont have to be a "hater" or an idiot (as some have said ) to know that. It's tiresome when some Klit fans simply cant live with the fact that some of us just dont worship the Klits..and see weaknesses and limitations that ARE there; and when they cant stand it anymore the disrespectful name calling begins. Never fails! I miss Nautilus..he was the ONLY Klit fan ANYBODY here could debate these facts with and not get called a bunch of names..it's was beneath him, and he is truly missed (that touch of class is noticably absent from this site! )

...Nautilus is still around BTW. Wlad has been hurt by a punch once in his career. He was not hurt by a punch in the Brewster fight nor the TOS fight, nor the Purrity fight. How can a guy be deemed to have a glass chin when he has only been stopped once by someone hurting him via his chin. Now when someone gets stopped twice in brutal fashion, and is knocked silly on many other occasions(Lewis) then they can truly be said to have a glass chin. Those are facts and the statement about Wlad having a glass chin is a guess based on one instance. Just because you call it a fact does not make it so.

[PBDS]

He got stopped three times, but was not knocked out three times, dip****. I keep bringing Lewis up because the majority of Klit haters are Lewis lovers, what's so irrational about that? I never, never said he was a great fighter, or was going to be, but when people start saying he should retire because of his losses...that's just plain ****ing ******. he was never knocked out on any occasion by a single punch, and yet Lewis, who was, on two separate occasions, according to some, has accomplished great things in spite of this, which I agree with. So why all the blind hate? I can admit that Wlad most likely won't be in the hall of fame. The problem is, some posters here can't admit that he isn't a bum. Now watch as you and other Klit haters resort to name calling, or re-posting the same three knockout ****, or some ****** implication that I was trying to say he was as good as Ali, or was going to dominate the world, or some other ****** **** that I never said or implied, all in an attempt to show everyone how irrational I am and how no "level-headed boxing fan" could ever have a normal ****ing conversation with me about boxing.

.....lol lol lol great post!!!

[tracylee]

...Nautilus is still around BTW. Wlad has been hurt by a punch once in his career. He was not hurt by a punch in the Brewster fight nor the TOS fight, nor the Purrity fight. How can a guy be deemed to have a glass chin when he has only been stopped once by someone hurting him via his chin. Now when someone gets stopped twice in brutal fashion, and is knocked silly on many other occasions(Lewis) then they can truly be said to have a glass chin. Those are facts and the statement about Wlad having a glass chin is a guess based on one instance. Just because you call it a fact does not make it so.

Whatever you say..I've heard it all before anyway. He cant seem to go the distance either way now can he..so, call it what you want.

[PBDS]

Whatever you say..I've heard it all before anyway. He cant seem to go the distance either way now can he..so, call it what you want.

....Yeah that's right, call it stamina if you want but if it's not a glass chin then don't act like it is. I was pointing out that your comment stating that he has a glass chin is not a "fact" in any way, shape, or form. He has been the "distance" on many occasions as well and had no issues on those occasions.

[tracylee]

....Yeah that's right, call it stamina if you want but if it's not a glass chin then don't act like it is. I was pointing out that your comment stating that he has a glass chin is not a "fact" in any way, shape, or form. He has been the "distance" on many occasions as well and had no issues on those occasions.

sigh...yeah, okay, like I said, whatever you say