Miguel Cotto: "Me and Pacquiao Will Be a War"

[prsi]

nah man, he's talking ****, so he needs to back it up.


don't sweat the #. the truth is cotto has no business losing to a smaller fighter.


yeah, and there have been more fighters moving up untested and getting beat. that's why there is the adage "the good big man beats the good little man".


cotto has good timing and is much stronger and punches alot harder.


cotto will be a disgrace, but he will get chances to redeem himself in other fights.


its not just weight. the weight is just a number. its what that weight represents. cotto will be much much stronger than pac.


you don't get the point. pac has gotten bigger and bigger even with a physical trainer. so it's nonsensical that a physical trainer will make cotto weigh less. understand?



I have been. you're arguments are weak. just concede defeat.

Non of your responses don't convince even yourself and you are repeating the same stuff with nothing to back up statements. The only new thing here is what i have bold on your post. I agree with you that Pacquaio has gotten bigger and bigger even with a Physical trainer but that's because he has almost the same body frame than Cotto both are close to 5'7". Pacquaio if growing up to that frame and what will be his weight (from 140 to 147 for weigh ins and close to 150 fight nights. Cotto had reach that earlier and lots of that has to do with lifestyle what you eat and how you train.

By Cotto Adding a physical trainer at this stage of this career, when he didn't have one in the past is precisely to improve his conditioning, stamina, eating habits and metabolism with diets. To say that this has no effects on what Cotto has weighed in the past is irresponsible.

By the way Ali was the loudest mouth before all his fight in the history of boxing. Some of those fights he lost does that make him a disgrace for boxing????

"I won't lose to a white boy" said Bernard Hopkins to Joe C., does that make him a disgrace for boxing??? Because he did lose!!!!

Bring better arguments to the table besides you opinion because our response are just repeating your self with no elements to build stronger our case.

[prsi]

i'm glad you feel that way, cause if cotto doesn't KO pac spectacularly, he will be a disgrace to himself and the island.

How will he be a disgrace to the island ?
For losing a fight against the p4p king ?

Are you even from the island ?


Come on man.
Don't downplay a fighter if you can't do what they do.

REAC7, don't worry about Pulcounter he just repeats himself over and over.
He says that Cotto need to back up his statements or he will be a disgrace to boxing. Are Ali, Hopkins, RJJ (just to name a few boxers that brag before fights and have lost) are a disgrace for boxing???
Not to mention that if Pacquao loses by Pulcounters standards Freddie Roach, Atlas, Nacho should be a disgrace to boxing also because they has express there opinions on how they see this fight and on how they have seen Cotto in the past. Don't think so.

[jetgeomcx]

ryt!
cotto already figured out how manny ticks, manny's weaknesses.
the only problem is in the execution on how can cotto's capitalize on these.
same thing for manny and roach,...they perfectly know how to beat cotto.
but can they execute their game plan??

this is going to be a real war....
both are intelligent fyters who can adjust accordingly.
on that nyt,.. the better man between them will win !!

[prsi]

ryt!
cotto already figured out how manny ticks, manny's weaknesses.
the only problem is in the execution on how can cotto's capitalize on these.
same thing for manny and roach,...they perfectly know how to beat cotto.
but can they execute their game plan??

this is going to be a real war....
both are intelligent fyters who can adjust accordingly.
on that nyt,.. the better man between them will win !!

No that's a true statement!!!!

I must add that some trainers and fighters play poker also (bluff) the say they will do a certain gameplna and when they get in the ring the come with somthing else to try to surpirse their oponents.

This fight will also have several adjustments and whoever adjust better to their oponents, probably on a plan B or even plan C will have an advantage

[jetgeomcx]

If you don't think that it doesn't make a difference then you are right I'll give it up because there no sense on discussing with you that has been scientifically and physically proven.

It's your turn to get serious

get serious man.

1) 145 lbs is 2 lbs away from 147 lbs.
2) the physical trainer bit doesn't work because pac also has a physical trainer.

both your supporting arguments are weak. give it up.

do continue with your discussion and argument.....
don't give up, you both have good points that we pick up...educational too!
don't be onion skinned...but refrain from words that slight.

[WESS]

Roach and Pac are praying for damaged goods like they have had in there last few fights.....

[prsi]

do continue with your discussion and argument.....
don't give up, you both have good points that we pick up...educational too!
don't be onion skinned...but refrain from words that slight.

Thanks, for your advise, I'm glad that you find it educational. I have also learned a lot from different posters here including Pullcounter with whom I was debating here. It's just that i don't agree with the "disgrace" issue but I admit he's a great poster here also.

[gopi11]

Pac winning isn't the issue. It's the lunacy to think he's going to steam roll Cotto based on his last 2 fights. There's absolutely no proof this will be the case.

There was no proof too when Pacman gave an ass beating to both Oscar and Ricky, and it caught almost everybody by surprise. I'm not saying that it will happen again against Cotto, but I wouldn't count it out that it can happen again, just like Cotto taking out Pacman in the early rounds.

That's why they fight the fights...

[Dave Rado]

nah man... pac was 148.xx against dlh and against hatton... pac did not get any bigger. its possible pac might be a little bigger in this fight... like you say around 150 lbs... but cotto will probably be 160+ lbs... the pic in my sig was a long time ago. using your paradigm, cotto should be 160+ lbs, not 158 lbs.

/argument.

You think Pac-Cotto is a mismatch in favour of Cotto because Pac "only" weighs around 148 on fight night. Do you think Floyd-Cotto would also be a mismatch in favour of Cotto? Floyd also "only" weighs around 148 on fight night.

I've asked you this question many times in many different threads and you never reply. Odd that.

[Dave Rado]

1) cotto said pac's wins are overrated (diaz, dlh, hatton)
2) cotto said he knows pac's weakness
3) cotto said morales beat pac so he should be able to
4) pac is a former 106 lber
5) pac is untested at 147 lbs
6) cotto has a huge size advantage

in other words cotto is saying "i'm knocking this fool out"!!!!

No, in other words he's saying, Pac is the overwhelming betting favourite, but he shouldn't be, and it will be a very competitive war, which he's confident he can win.

Which is true. It's a pick 'em fight if ever there was one.

Both fighters are confident of winning, that's always the case when there are two great fighters meeting.

Do you think that because JMM is confident that he can beat Floyd, that means he'll look a complete idiot if he doesn't and that he'll be a disgrace to boxing and to Mexico if he loses? If so, you're just being silly. Every fighter has to go into a big fight confident of winning, otherwise there would be no point in having the fight.