Miguel Cotto: "Me and Pacquiao Will Be a War"

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  • prsi
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    #231
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    I'll r3epost it for you. Try reading this time.
    "The way u should view pac is a blown up 140 lber who has no business @ 147 lbs. I've been saying this and was against this fight from the jump."
    Blown up 140lbr??? Have you noticed that there a guy here with a signature similar to yours, with a HBO tale of the Tape for a Pacman/Marquez fight at 130max that Pacman came in on fight night over 140lbs????

    True that he's lighter but he will come fight night very close to 150(fight night), for DLH fight he came in at 148 (fight night).

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    • Pullcounter
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      #232
      Originally posted by JBell11
      -cotto was overrated? - No
      True
      -1 lb weight drained? - To be determined - that could be a legitimate argument look at DLH
      False. 1 lbs won't weight drain cotto.
      -he was damaged goods by margarito? No...I think he is a bit more cautious
      True
      -he looked bad vs clottey? - No I think he fought hard
      True. Who doesn't look bad against clottey?
      -his punch resistance is gone taken away by margarito? - We are not Cotto lol We do not know if Cotto "punch resistance" is gone lol but we can deduce that he will be more cautious...which u can't blame.
      False. Pac don't punch hard enough. Cotto should be able to walk thru anything pac throws

      -he was overtrained? - I hope not.
      Possible, but that's his corner's fault
      -he did not have proper trainer by his side? Sure...he is skilled enough to improve his exsisting techniques...and mature enough to be in a steady regimen.
      False. Cotto don't need strategy to beat pac

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      • cabrademonte
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        #233
        Originally posted by Rabbit-Punches
        I agree, I don't want to hear excuses from anyone... Overtraining, weight-drained is bs.. Cotto and his trainer are saying he's in great shape.. The corner however is not so much an excuse as it is a factor.. I think it's Cotto's biggest weakness... He lost to Marg bc of a beatdown but I think him looking like **** against Clottey was a direct result of having a ****ty corner.. If Manny gets in trouble Roach might have the knowledge to adjust and turn it around..if Cotto starts looking bad, he's done.. santiago will not have the answers...
        Can you say 9 rounds with a nasty cut against a Monster.

        Do you think Pac would have survived and win a fight with Clottey with that cut for 9 rounds.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #234
          Originally posted by prsi
          Blown up 140lbr??? Have you noticed that there a guy here with a signature similar to yours, with a HBO tale of the Tape for a Pacman/Marquez fight at 130max that Pacman came in on fight night over 140lbs????
          Pac was struggling to make 130 lbs. That's why he moved up.

          Besides pac was 4 lbs heavier than jmm... WHOOP-DY-****IN-DO!!!! Gimme a break!!! Cotto will have 10+ lbs on pac.

          True that he's lighter but he will come fight night very close to 150(fight night), for DLH fight he came in at 148 (fight night).
          Yea, and cotto will be any where from 158-165 lbs.

          /argument
          Last edited by Pullcounter; 08-27-2009, 12:31 PM.

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          • lopez36
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            #235
            i'll say it again,pac is overrated,he lost to jmm,period,he couldn't ko marquez and got hurt and beat up by marquez,why cant' a bigger man in cotto do the same,the first flush shot cotto lands it's goodnight for pac,this isn't diaz,old oscar and overrated no defense hatton he's facing,this is a stocky,natural young welter he's facing

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            • Rabbit ♠
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              #236
              Originally posted by cabrademonte
              Can you say 9 rounds with a nasty cut against a Monster.

              Do you think Pac would have survived and win a fight with Clottey with that cut for 9 rounds.
              That was pure instinct.. Cotto's got alot of heart.. but he looked flustered and confused at times in that fight.. I gave alot of credit to him for pulling that off and fininishing that fight even though he could have had it stopped.. I think Cotto will win because he's too big, but if Manny cuts open Cotto he won't pull punches like Clottey did..

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              • Pullcounter
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                #237
                Originally posted by lopez36
                i'll say it again,pac is overrated,he lost to jmm,period,he couldn't ko marquez and got hurt and beat up by marquez,why cant' a bigger man in cotto do the same,the first flush shot cotto lands it's goodnight for pac,this isn't diaz,old oscar and overrated no defense hatton he's facing,this is a stocky,natural young welter he's facing
                Good points... then cotto should have no problems KOing pac under 6 rds. If cotto can't he will have shamed himself and the island.

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                • Quarty
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                  #238
                  Yea, this young natural vacant belts beater is pretty overrated too!

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                  • ericsantos
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by JM1
                    i cant see cotto exploiting much of mannys weaknesses cause hes not as good as a counter puncher like marquez. i think cottos weaknesses are much more easier to exploit. cant wait for this fight
                    I think Cotto is just as good or better than Marquez ,for example look at the mosley fight and the zab fight ,he was able to do to zab what Maywether couldnt do which it is to take Zabs speed out of the equation and did the same thing to mosley

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by rob6465
                      So why kill cotto if Pacquiao was the first one of both fighters to take fight. Don't you think you should call pacquiao out for "thinking" he can beat a 147 lb fighter, even though he beat oscar.
                      I think I've made that pretty clear.

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