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  • #41
    Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
    He fought Hatton at 140..and he STARTED AT 106....are you blind? Now he is facing Cotto.........just cause you dont know any of the fighters beloe 125, doesnt make them chumps
    once again....he fought Hatton when he was undefeated ....Mayweather KO'ed him first...

    You know what...you are right....they cant be CHUMPS cause 2 of the KO'ed Manny

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    • #42
      Originally posted by 2501 View Post
      you make a thread asking the opinion of a boxing forum on who they feel has a better resume between Floyd and Manny, then pretty much ridicule everyone who voted for manny pacquiao showing an obvious bias for Mayweather and then you have the nerve to call them fanboys? even the various posters on here who are actually VERY pro Mayweather such as Pullcounter?

      Its obvious that no amount of valid debate would ever convince you other wise so its pretty obvious that this was a bait thread.

      But hey, the whole world is always wrong and Floyd never gets the fair shake right?

      Not ridiculing anyone...just dont say "Mannys is better" and thats it ....I like Manny but just saying Mannys is better cause he fought Berrera, Morales, and Marquez is not true

      I feel as if from the point of 0-0 Mayweather has faced better fighters.....

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
        Not ridiculing anyone...just dont say "Mannys is better" and thats it ....I like Manny but just saying Mannys is better cause he fought Berrera, Morales, and Marquez is not true

        I feel as if from the point of 0-0 Mayweather has faced better fighters.....
        well more people who voted on the poll feel otherwise so live w/it

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        • #44
          Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
          Gatti lost to Micky ward at 140....go away....Diaz did much better aGAINST Pac at 135 then Hatton did at 140...so your theory is crap
          and Zahir Raheem outboxed the same Morales who beat Pacquiao

          PANSY!

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
            and Zahir Raheem outboxed the same Morales who beat Pacquiao

            PANSY!
            what does that have to do w/ what you said about Gatti being better at 140 than Diaz was at 135? LOL

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Gutz View Post
              Why do you hate Pac so much.. he a great fighter..


              Lets not forget.. Pac has moved up to fight Oscar 2 weight classes... Everyone and there momma though Oscar would destroy Pac..
              Pac is one of my favorite fighters today....but in no way has be faced a better list of competition than Mayweather since they both became pros

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              • #47
                Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
                what does that have to do w/ what you said about Gatti being better at 140 than Diaz was at 135? LOL
                Once Again: Answer The Question

                Ask yourself this question.



                Why is it that when both Pacquiao and Mayweather was active nobody rated Pacquiao higher than Mayweather, if Pacquiao suppose to have the better resume?

                Dont you think People would have took note of this and had Manny Pacquiao
                ranked higher then Floyd Mayweather.
                in 1998,1999,2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007, and 2008.

                Why in all these years did nobody ever say you know Floyd Mayweather,
                your #2 and Manny pacquiao is #1 ?

                Why?

                You why.

                Because stats and facts dont lie.
                the only reason pacquiao is #1 is because Mayweather retired.
                he never overtook Mayweather. he just filled a vacancy.
                huge difference.

                I dont see how somebody can say pacquiao is better than Mayweather.. when throughout their whole career nobody has ever rated Pacquiao ahead of Mayweather..

                throughout their whole career from beginning to end mayweather has fought better competition.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by goldenglove2 View Post
                  what does that have to do w/ what you said about Gatti being better at 140 than Diaz was at 135? LOL

                  u brought up Mickey Ward beating Gatti @ 140 trying to insist that Mayweathers W over Gatti is Tainted cause of that...lol

                  and David Diaz won that title he had by NOT beating a champion...it was up for grabs

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                    ok so Mayweather has fougth Better fighters?...

                    and you think Pac's meaningless Wins over Hatton and DLH mean more than Mayweather beating an Undefeated Hatton and a Champion De La Hoya?...

                    and when Mayweather beats Marquez....who will u think has the better Resume?



                    Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                    ok so Mayweather has fougth Better fighters?...

                    and you think Pac's meaningless Wins over Hatton and DLH mean more than Mayweather beating an Undefeated Hatton and a Champion De La Hoya?...

                    and when Mayweather beats Marquez....who will u think has the better Resume?
                    Well, Mayweather took on Hatton at his weight: Welterweight. That was not really Hattons weight and he still gave Floyd a head ache the first 5 or 6 rounds. Manny took on Hatton at his natural weight where he was never beaten, and destroyed him in 2 rounds. So what do you think is more impressive? Del Hoya he won a UD at his weight, and i give him credit for that, but again Manny gets the best of him. Manny jump 2 weight classes to face Oscar at WW and absolutely destroyed him from start to finish. You may say he was weight drained and what not, and I won't disagree with you there, but people seem to forget that Manny had to jump 2 weight classes to face Oscar. He could have easly came into that fight slower, sluggish, and not as good as he was at the lighter weights. So it's not Manny's fault that Oscar came into that fight ill prepared. Me personally if i were Oscar, I would have fired who ever he had as his nutrionist.


                    If he beats Marquez...good for him. Manny's got Cotto. If Manny pulls out the win aginst Cotto Mayweather is still in the back seat. Manny has also tooken on a lot better competion late in his career, where as Mayweather has not. Lets remeber that for Mayweather it's not about fighting good fighters, it's about making the most amount of money taking the least amount of risk. He could have fought margarito for a guranteed 8 million and he made the excuse of who is that, the fans don't know him. When he came back he could have fought a guy like Berto or Mosely, and instead who did he decide to pick .... a lightweight. Come on man...what kind of **** is that? That's a joke! Manny's taking on Miguel Cotto and Mayweather is taken on Marquez.... who looks more impressive?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                      Pac is one of my favorite fighters today....but in no way has be faced a better list of competition than Mayweather since they both became pros

                      this is the honest truth.


                      Like I said Before.

                      You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
                      Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

                      You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

                      Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

                      .I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
                      By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

                      While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

                      Just think about that..?

                      You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


                      So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

                      Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

                      Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
                      Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

                      I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

                      * Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
                      * Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
                      * Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
                      * Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez



                      Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


                      You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
                      there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

                      no way.

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