PBF or Pac? Whos Resume is Better?

[Jiddu Dali]

the only reason pacquiao is #1 is because Mayweather retired.
he never overtook Mayweather. he just filled a vacancy.
huge difference.

I was thinking the same thing.....and why do people think just cause he fought Berrera, Moralles, & Marquez that it trumps who Mayweather has fought....alot of these people are basically saying if Pac was 3-0 anmd his 3 fights were with the 3 i mentioned then he still would be an ATG's[/QUOTE]

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so besides those 3...how does his RESUME from top to bottom outweight Mayweathers?....

i asked...WHO HAS FOUGHT THE BETTER COMPETITION since they were both 0-0?...Not who has fought the greater mexicans

[goldenglove2]

I was thinking the same thing.....and why do people think just cause he fought Berrera, Moralles, & Marquez that it trumps who Mayweather has fought....alot of these people are basically saying if Pac was 3-0 anmd his 3 fights were with the 3 i mentioned then he still would be an ATG's

this is a very dumb post[/QUOTE]

so besides those 3...how does his RESUME from top to bottom outweight Mayweathers?....

i asked...WHO HAS FOUGHT THE BETTER COMPETITION since they were both 0-0?...Not who has fought the greater mexicans[/QUOTE]

another dumb post........lol...........

[Jiddu Dali]

yes


and floyd's resume is devoid of chumps?


actually stopped dlh. stopped hatton before pbf.


nope Mayweather has beat better fighters, but pac has better wins.


jmm is typical mexican brawler?

mab typical mexican brawler when pac fought him?

morales a typical mexican brawler?

ok so Mayweather has fougth Better fighters?...

and you think Pac's meaningless Wins over Hatton and DLH mean more than Mayweather beating an Undefeated Hatton and a Champion De La Hoya?...

and when Mayweather beats Marquez....who will u think has the better Resume?

[Jiddu Dali]

this is a very dumb post

Im asking you a question.....if you took each oth their resumes WHO would have better fighters on their list total? You are only speaking on 3 mexican fighters in Berrera, Morales & Marquez.....what about the other 45+ fighters Pac has faced?

You think Manny has faced a more diverse selection of fighters? Mayweather has fought all styles...

Im not asking who is better...we all know who the better all around fighter is....im asking who has a better list of opposition

[Horus]

I was thinking the same thing.....and why do people think just cause he fought Berrera, Moralles, & Marquez that it trumps who Mayweather has fought....alot of these people are basically saying if Pac was 3-0 anmd his 3 fights were with the 3 i mentioned then he still would be an ATG's

Seriously.
From beginning to end
Mayweather has fought at a higher level than Pacquiao.


To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

[Pretty Boy32]

He has also destroyed Floyds last two opponents a heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllla lot quiker than Floyd did .....hence he is the better fighter P4P...

Floyd ruined hatton and Oscar was weight drained,
Floyd fought oscar at a comfortable weight for oscar,
he possessed his power and speed,
Pacquiao fought a weight drained zombie....

Hatton was mentally fcuked after the fight with floyd and peaked far too early and started training camp way too early,
saying that im not making excuses Pacquiao would of beating ricky either way,
but ricky wasnt a shell of the man he was before he fought floyd....

Oscar on the other hand.............

[TheCheetah]

I think Pac mans is better... But Floyd has fought some great fighters... There's a couple fighters I still want to see Floyd fight which is Pacman himself, with Paul Williams, Joshua Clottey, Miguel Cotto, and a lot more.

[Jiddu Dali]

Seriously.
From beginning to end
Mayweather has fought at a higher level than Pacquiao.


To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

I couldnt've said it better Myself....this is what people fail to realize....alot of these fan boys are only speaking on the past 2 years...

[goldenglove2]

Seriously.
From beginning to end
Mayweather has fought at a higher level than Pacquiao.


To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

As Pac moves up in weight he takes on GREATER competition...Floyd TAKES ON WEAKER competition..sortof like Floyds biggest win at 140 is Gatti and Pac is Ricky, not to mention Pac who started at 106-108 is now facing WHO Floyd should be facing?(who started at 130ish) Miguel Cotto and Floyd( who was suppose to be the p4p best) is fighting a light weight...GET REAL.......Floyd doesnt have a better resume..MAB, MORALES, Hatton at 140, and MARQUEZ AT HIS PRIME WEIGHTS TRUMPS FLOYDS RESUME!!

[Jone2ts]

70-30 Floyd