Welterweights Mayweather Jnr should have fought & when:

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  • Glamour Puss
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    #21
    Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
    JLC is ALOT better then Margarito. JLC was great in the inside, worked his way in with punches, had the hand speed, foot speed, footwork, good at cutting the ring, power, chin, stamina...Margarito was all durability, size and an accumilative puncher. You should be ashamed comparing Margarito to JLC, seriously you should.

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    • S.G.
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      #22
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      Exactly. He's a pro fighter, he aint scared of anyone. He just simply doesn't give a **** about the fights the fans want to see, he just wants to make the most money he can. Can't totally fault him for that.
      I don't agree with this - I don't think it's as black and white as that.

      Mayweather certainly does care about legacy and fans and it's disrespectful to dismiss a man holding one of the best resumes around right now as not giving a fuck about making good fights.

      I don't think he's helped himself with his shameless materialism and compulsion to constantly justify himself via any means possible to his detractors and the boxing media. If often leads to these quotes and "excuses" that every Mayweather detractor keeps a notebook containing, even though they're usually not particularly relevent to the reality of the situation, just examples of Floyd running his mouth.

      From 140lbs up he's chased the high reward fights (not exactly an uncommon phenomena for a boxer at the height of their career) but has amassed a resume of high standard at the same time. You can't write off the risk just because the reward is high

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        #23
        Originally posted by Jack Burton
        You ass

        You're better then that man. Deep down you know damn well JLC >Margarito.

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          #24
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          He should have fought Cotto after he beat Hatton and Cotto beat Mosley. That's what should have happened, and it's more of a shame that didn't happen than anything else.

          That being said, I don't think he "ducked" anyone. But he should have fought Cotto then. No doubt about it.
          Well, as long as Arum is in the picture the Margarito, Cotto fights will not happen. But maybe Cotto will leave Arum next year after he publicly said he was not pleased with how Arum handled the loaded wraps situation with Margarito.

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            #25
            Originally posted by S.G.
            I don't agree with this - I don't think it's as black and white as that.

            Mayweather certainly does care about legacy and fans and it's disrespectful to dismiss a man holding one of the best resumes around right now as not giving a fuck about making good fights.

            I don't think he's helped himself with his shameless materialism and compulsion to constantly justify himself via any means possible to his detractors and the boxing media. If often leads to these quotes and "excuses" that every Mayweather detractor keeps a notebook containing, even though they're usually not particularly relevent to the reality of the situation, just examples of Floyd running his mouth.

            From 140lbs up he's chased the high reward fights (not exactly an uncommon phenomena for a boxer at the height of their career) but has amassed a resume of high standard at the same time. You can't write off the risk just because the reward is high

            Could you go into further detail of the many boxing stars who chased high reward fights while ignoring and completely disregarding the important ones during the peak of their career?

            I'd love to hear of all these fighters who have taken this route.

            You can start a new thread for it if you'd like, or I can do it and you can take over from there.

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              #26
              Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
              You ass

              You're better then that man. Deep down you know damn well JLC >Margarito.
              I don't know that. Margarito is a mexican legend who is underrated on here.

              He catches punches, rolls with punches, is great at cutting off the ring, has solid power in both hands, has a great chin, the best uppercuts in the biz, unbelievable stamina, and punch output and can fight both on the inside and outside.

              Castillo is great too, but I'm not gonna diminish Tony in any way.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Jack Burton
                Joe Kapp is that you?
                Its Raider season homeboy,

                **** the Vikings.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Jack Burton
                  I don't know that. Margarito is a mexican legend who is underrated on here.

                  He catches punches, rolls with punches, is great at cutting off the ring, has solid power in both hands, has a great chin, the best uppercuts in the biz, unbelievable stamina, and punch output and can fight both on the inside and outside.

                  Castillo is great too, but I'm not gonna diminish Tony in any way.
                  Very true but simple movement can cut Margarito's workrate in half, Mayweather didn't find any sucess cutting JLC's workrate, JLC was on him like white on rice, that foot speed and ability to cut off the ring was just too good. Margarito is underated and all but I wouldn't compare him to JLC, he ain't on that level.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Tom Flores
                    Could you go into further detail of the many boxing stars who chased high reward fights while ignoring and completely disregarding the important ones during the peak of their career?

                    I'd love to hear of all these fighters who have taken this route.

                    You can start a new thread for it if you'd like, or I can do it and you can take over from there.
                    See this sums up the problem, no one is a worthwhile opponent after the fact

                    De La Hoya and Hatton. Important fights.
                    Judah. Important fight.
                    Baldomir, important fight in lieu of his fight with Judah (Mayweather accused of ducking him after fighting the clearly more able, but recently beaten Zab)

                    What I'm saying is that Mayweather HAS fought important, credible fights.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
                      Very true but simple movement can cut Margarito's workrate in half, Mayweather didn't find any sucess cutting JLC's workrate, JLC was on him like white on rice, that foot speed and ability to cut off the ring was just too good. Margarito is underated and all but I wouldn't compare him to JLC, he ain't on that level.
                      He's on that level, his footspeed is slower than Castillo but that doesn't mean he's not on his level.

                      Its easy to talk this way about him after losing to Mosley but people weren't saying this stuff before that.

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