cotto with a few adjustments can beat margo

[Pullcounter]

He was outboxing him easily? I'm no Margarito fan at all, but I know how to call a fight the way I see it. Cotto barely won the rounds that went to him and he got dominated in the rounds that he lost. This was especially true in the sixth round and the last two rounds.

COME ON!!! cotto was outboxing and landing on margo at will! the only thing that saved margo was the fact that margo has a great chin.

Only adjustment that needs to be made is Marg not being plastered up.

if you have any hard evidence i'd like to see it.

[The_Italian]

People wanna believe that margo ruined cotto but that is just plain false. Yes, huge WWs give cotto problems, but who don't they give problems to?

Cotto can beat margo in the rematch by making these few adjustments.

- clinch and push margo back
- potshot to conserve energy
- combination punching in spurts mostly during the end of rounds to steal rounds
- lowblow if he needs a breather
- keep elbows in tight to defend against uppercuts
- more head movement

With these few adjustment he will surely beat margo... hell, if he didn't quit, he still mightve been able to pull it off. It wasn't like margo was up on the cards.

I think cotto can beat margarito without changing a thing to be honest. if margarito never used plaster wraps cotto would have gotten him out of there within 10 rounds.

i mean look at the first 7 rounds of that fight. i only gave like 2 of the first 7 rounds to margarito. cotto was outboxing, outclassing, and outpunching margarito.

cotto is DEFINATELY the superior boxer and thats what he should stick with...especially against guys not known for being great technical fighters. until cotto wore down late in the fight he was clearly on his way to winning. after the first 7 rounds i was a bit suprised to see it was such dominating performance for cotto. i expected him to win because he is a better boxer but i didnt think he'd have such a HUGE lead going into the later rounds of the fight like he did.

without plaster wraps cotto by UD or TKO in 10.

[Bhopreign]

if you have any hard evidence i'd like to see it.

You might wanna contact the CSAC. I can get their number if you want.

[The_Italian]

if you have any hard evidence i'd like to see it.

im not saying margarito DID and i can PROVE it. however if margarito got caught with illegal wraps against mosley i think theres a good chance he used them against cotto considering at this point in their careers cotto is a bigger threat than mosley. so why NOT wear them against cotto but find yourself needing them for mosley?

and since he was caught and fought with proper wraps why did he look so bad all of the sudden when he looked like a beast against cotto who couldnt even be hurt?

and cotto DOES have power. i just think with those handwraps it gives the illusion that he's indestrucable because against mosley he was really suffering in there and once mosley got him hurt he put him away quick.

im just sayin its highly probable that he used them against cotto because it makes little sense to use them against mosley and not cotto when at the time cotto was viewed as the much tougher opponent. leading up to the margarito/mosley fight many were saying who bad they were going to feel to see mosley lose.

but what happened once he couldnt use his wraps?

[Beater_of_ass]

im not saying margarito DID and i can PROVE it. however if margarito got caught with illegal wraps against mosley i think theres a good chance he used them against cotto considering at this point in their careers cotto is a bigger threat than mosley. so why NOT wear them against cotto but find yourself needing them for mosley?

and since he was caught and fought with proper wraps why did he look so bad all of the sudden when he looked like a beast against cotto who couldnt even be hurt?

and cotto DOES have power. i just think with those handwraps it gives the illusion that he's indestrucable because against mosley he was really suffering in there and once mosley got him hurt he put him away quick.

im just sayin its highly probable that he used them against cotto because it makes little sense to use them against mosley and not cotto when at the time cotto was viewed as the much tougher opponent. leading up to the margarito/mosley fight many were saying who bad they were going to feel to see mosley lose.

but what happened once he couldnt use his wraps?

I wouldn't even mention that Cotto was more dangerous that Mosley, that's up for debate. What you can say however, is that the Cotto fight was a MUCH bigger fight for Marg than the Mosley fight. If Marg lost to Cotto his career was over and he'd probably never get another big shot like that again. Also, with pics like the following, it may not prove he did use them but it certainly leaves enough to keep that win in question.

[Pullcounter]

You might wanna contact the CSAC. I can get their number if you want.

the cotto/marg fight was in vegas not california if i remember right.

im not saying margarito DID and i can PROVE it. however if margarito got caught with illegal wraps against mosley i think theres a good chance he used them against cotto considering at this point in their careers cotto is a bigger threat than mosley. so why NOT wear them against cotto but find yourself needing them for mosley?

and since he was caught and fought with proper wraps why did he look so bad all of the sudden when he looked like a beast against cotto who couldnt even be hurt?

and cotto DOES have power. i just think with those handwraps it gives the illusion that he's indestrucable because against mosley he was really suffering in there and once mosley got him hurt he put him away quick.

im just sayin its highly probable that he used them against cotto because it makes little sense to use them against mosley and not cotto when at the time cotto was viewed as the much tougher opponent. leading up to the margarito/mosley fight many were saying who bad they were going to feel to see mosley lose.

but what happened once he couldnt use his wraps?

I want hard evidence, not probabilities... otherwise don't bring plaster into this thread (aimed at everyone not just you)

[Bhopreign]

[QUOTE=Pullcounter;5961772]the cotto/marg fight was in vegas not california if i remember right.



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What does that have to do with anything.

[Iceta]

There shouldn't have been a 10-8 round in the fight without a knockdown. As much as Cotto was being hit, he was also popping Marg right back. A 10-8 is scored if the guy is just getting slaughtered and not doing much back and that did not happen this fight, also the second round could have gone either way.

As for strategy, I fail to see exactly what Cotto did wrong. For 6 rounds he was absolutely making the guy look like an amateur who had a very very solid chin, and nothing more. Once the 7th came it just all of a sudden changed, I'm not going to say Marg used, but I'm not going to say he didn't either. There isn't enough evidence to prove he did it, but there is more than enough to question his win about it. We'll really never know if Cotto just got tired or if the plaster was in play and lead to Cotto's massive loss of stamina, and I think that's what it was. If there were a rematch Cotto should just do exactly what he did and instead of moving away he should just clinch Marg. I agree with the TS that his machismo of not grabbing hurt him just as much as the wraps. A 5 punch combo of 2 or 3 solid shots landing then a clinch is a sure fire win against Marg.

Rounds usually are not scored 10-8 without a knockdown, but Cotto got totally bludgeoned in that round. That is one time that he did try to clinch Margarito. Clinching is one of the things that actually will not work in a rematch for Cotto. Styles make fights, and Mosley is strong as hell when it comes to imposing his weight on opponents. I'm not saying Cotto is weak in the physical department, but Margarito will maul on Cotto if Cotto tries to clinch him. Margarito clipped Cotto with uppercuts from both hands when Cotto tried to grab him, where Margarito was not able to do that with Mosley.

I know that a lot of people think Cotto boxed a perfect fight early on, but I saw instances of where he was letting Margarito whale on him with body punches while his back was against the ropes. And the couple of times that Cotto let Margarito hit him with 3 and 4 uppercuts in a row made me know that this is a horrible style match-up for him. Cotto's best chance to beat Margarito in a rematch is to stand his ground and match Margarito punch for punch in the middle of the ring. It is exactly what Mosley did even though he tied Margarito up quite a bit. Cotto won't get Margarito's respect punching off the back foot.

[Pullcounter]

What does that have to do with anything.

cause cotto/marg was in vegas... why would i call the CSAC?

[meathooksodomy]

I'm a big fan of both of these guys. I've said for a long time now that the key to beating Marg is to clinch him. Cotto could have beat Marg and still can, he has to clinch. Assuming what Clottey has said about the two guys strength in comparison to one another I would believe that Cotto could clinch Marg up the majority of the time. Cotto will never beat Margarito in a brawl, Marg walks through everyone's punches, Mosely's clinch took Marg out of that fight. If Mosely stood and traded punch for punch he'd have been out just like Cotto. The only person in the welterweight divison who can stand right in front of Margarito for 12 rounds without clinching is Clottey because of his tight defense, sturdy chin, and size, all other welterweights need to clinch him or they are in trouble.