alot of people on here dont know **** about boxing period

[FeFist]

casuals dont know what impact they have. all they know are big names, good fighters and good fights. Politics have not killed boxing. Money has not killed boxing. Its soft fighters not wanting to take risks inside or outside the ring.

This is something money and politics has affected at least it can be argued. People in the old days could take a risk in terms of entering a fight and losing because pride was the important thing back then. Now because of promoters an individuals record is too important.

If promoters would continue to promote a fighter even if they lost a big fight, I doubt individuals would be so scared of losing.

The real problem with boxing is that there is no big names anymore. This is no superstars. There is very few fighters with the mentality that the old fighters had. Back in the day fights were HUUUUUGE, because everyone knew it was going to be a fight! Everytime tyson fought people wanted to see, when hollyfield fought people wanted to see, when hearns fought people wanted to see, when arguello fought pryor everyone wanted to see, when tyson fought hollyfield MILLIONS

I woulc also put this down to promotion and money. For one how is a fighter supposed to build up a rep when everything is on payper view. At the least they should show the undercard match on regular for free then charge for the main event.

I understand where you're coming from. Too me what you listed are the symptoms of the illness. Those problems exist because of money and promoters. People aren't given the chances they deserve so it's harder for new stars to be created. New stars get paid too much early in their career to so imho it kills some of their desire.

This isn't really the sort of thing I can express clearly in words to be honest.

[Talisayen]

man 8 years old and been in boxing since i was 12..im not some teenie bopper that has to prove himself to some clown on an internet boxing board,,opinions are like *******s everyone has one..so your's mean jack**** to me..so do what you do best,,cry and red k

Larry you need to stop embarrassing yourself and stop proclaiming yourself as an intelligent boxing expert. This thread that you'd made exposes the truth about your bullshyiet and you just got

[DaTrooth]

man 8 years old and been in boxing since i was 12..im not some teenie bopper that has to prove himself to some clown on an internet boxing board,,opinions are like *******s everyone has one..so your's mean jack**** to me..so do what you do best,,cry and red k

panties in a bunch? or is that time of the month? I've presented you numerous FACTS about the sport then and now and you've done **** for your argument. You can ***** all you want like a 13 year old on the internet and claim you "know" boxing but it's clear your replies shows you have no clue and you replies also show how immature and sensitive of a ***** you are. I've presented to you unbiased real arguments and this is the best you can do. Go through your tantrum somewhere else because it's not working here. YOu wanted to talk boxing then talk it. Don't start being a crying ***** on the internet because you can't answer questions being presented to you.

[PAC-BOY]

He aint claiming to be a ****ing expert... he is just saying, that the people who criticize Boxers for hitting and moving and calling them ******* who run don't have a clue what they are talking about and he is right, its a sport... as in different styles of fighting.

Did I say he was claiming to be an expert? Read before you type...It does wonders.

[TheCheetah]

I have to agree with Larry's first post

[Danny Gunz]

casuals dont know what impact they have. all they know are big names, good fighters and good fights. Politics have not killed boxing. Money has not killed boxing. Its soft fighters not wanting to take risks inside or outside the ring. all this money, politics, corruption has always been a part of boxing, it has never changed. don king and arum are probably both older than me and you combined. The real problem with boxing is that there is no big names anymore. This is no superstars. There is very few fighters with the mentality that the old fighters had. Back in the day fights were HUUUUUGE, because everyone knew it was going to be a fight! Everytime tyson fought people wanted to see, when hollyfield fought people wanted to see, when hearns fought people wanted to see, when arguello fought pryor everyone wanted to see, when tyson fought hollyfield MILLIONS wanted to see, vargas, trinidad, dlh, tyson, hollyfield and so much more that i can name that just came to fight! they brought the beautiful skill of a boxer along with the mentality of brawler and the mentality that ima *** you up before you *** me up! The glory days brought numerous, great, beautiful back and forth wars that left the public wanting more. That is no longer the case, these fighters are nothing to what they used to be. There is very few left and what's depressing and nerve racking what is going to happen when pac, jmm, cotto, retire. Who's left to carry the torch? who are the casuals waiting on?

I agree with this guy, counter punching and slick fighters who fight back pedaling are part of boxing and have always been. But for the most part it seems like they are just getting too soft. I have always believed in these type of fighters but so many of them now arent willing to take risks, and instead of laying a beating on the other guy even if it is a bum and knocking them out, they would rather jab to an easy UD.

Dont get me wrong its definetly apart of the sport but its just not exciting and it is drawing people away from the sport.

Its not bad decisions and fighters getting robbed drawing people away from boxing, its when fighters go 12 rounds landing 25 punches around and coming out of the fight with not even a bruise on their face

[RodBarker]

alot of people on here never boxed either but claim to be gurus and feel like they know what each boxer should be doing in a fight

You dont have to be a jockey to be a great racehorse trainer , you dont have to be Senna to be a great mechanic , its about having eyes for detail and a analytical open mind being see the not so obvious , some of the best trainers were very poor fighters , I agree with Larry most of this board know **** about boxing , know **** about weight , know **** about conditioning and know **** about the essence of the sport , then most of this board are under 20 and many under 15 , all they see is the biff .

[Glamour Puss]

I have to agree with Larry's first post

Of course you do you goofy looking bastard.

Is it that hard to buy shirts your own size?

[catalinul]

Agreed Larry.

Good post.

[Smokin'J]

Nobody is saying Paulie ran you crack baby.

Most people on here think he won the fight. And don't talk about intellect when all of your posts look like their spelled by a 5 year old.

This is just another post where you're trying to project your gay fantasies about Mayweather into a thread disguised as a Paulie thread.

Then you're gonna act surprised when someone brings up Mayweather when its what you really want in the first place.

The most obvious bait threader on here.

pretty much sums it up