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  • Santo Domingo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    no juarez is worse than diaz.
    Juarez looked MUCH more competitive against the top tier (MAB, JMM) than Diaz has.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Sin City
      I think you guys don't give Paulie enough credit.
      I know he has looked really bad in the recent past but
      it's been mostly due to the hand injuries.
      a two handed malignaggi is a good fighter, watch the miguel cotto
      fight and you'll find out.
      Paulie is no joke. He broke his hand in that fight too and I had it 115-112 for Cotto.

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        #23
        He's not washed up, Paulie was naturally bigger, stronger, and faster and doesn't have McCurse in his corner anymore.

        Diaz will have to be like a Tszyu, Hatton and not be able to go up in weight. At 135, he still beats 99% out.

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          #24
          That was the best Pauli I have seen in a long time. He had his game together last night.

          He had a victory stolen from him but he redeemed himself to everyone watching. That counts more than anything. He looked great last nght.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Santo Domingo
            Juarez looked MUCH more competitive against the top tier (MAB, JMM) than Diaz has.
            Why? Cuz he didn't get knocked out. Diaz won more rounds in 8 rounds against JMM than Juarez did in 12 and the second Barrera fight wasn't real competitive at all. Marquez-Diaz is leading candidate for FOTY and it's not because of lack of competitiveness.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Santo Domingo
              Juarez looked MUCH more competitive against the top tier (MAB, JMM) than Diaz has.
              doesn't matter both have lost to the best boxers they've fought, except juarez loses to medocre opponents as well, while diaz always beats the mediocre opponents he's been faced with. hence, diaz > juarez.

              Originally posted by QUELOQUE
              He's not washed up, Paulie was naturally bigger, stronger, and faster and doesn't have McCurse in his corner anymore.
              definitely no, cause diaz was never that great.

              Diaz will have to be like a Tszyu, Hatton and not be able to go up in weight. At 135, he still beats 99% out.
              that's cause there's not many great prime boxers left at 135 lbs.

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                #27
                I don't think Diaz is washed up or even near it. He and Pauli just had a clash of styles and Pauli fought one heck of a fight.

                Cudos to both of them for giving us a very entertaining fight. The scoring was ****ty, but the fight itself was fun.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                  Why? Cuz he didn't get knocked out. Diaz won more rounds in 8 rounds against JMM than Juarez did in 12 and the second Barrera fight wasn't real competitive at all. Marquez-Diaz is leading candidate for FOTY and it's not because of lack of competitiveness.
                  I consider getting outboxed as being more competitive than being brutally knocked out. That is my opinion.

                  Wasn't the prevailing theory on here that Pac beat Oscar and Ricky "more impressively" than Floyd did? Why is that?

                  Hell, many people feel that Juarez won that first MAB fight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    definitely no, cause diaz was never that great.


                    that's cause there's not many great prime boxers left at 135 lbs.
                    There aren't many great prime boxers anywhere, let alone at 135. Except for Guzman, Funeka, and Valero, Diaz would put it on most/all of them. Diaz isn't great, but he's very good.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Santo Domingo
                      I consider getting outboxed as being more competitive than being brutally knocked out. That is my opinion.

                      Wasn't the prevailing theory on here that Pac beat Oscar and Ricky "more impressively" than Floyd did? Why is that?

                      Hell, many people feel that Juarez won that first MAB fight.
                      Juarez didn't just get outboxed, he got outclassed throughout the entire fight and barely won a couple rounds. The rounds and fight lacked competitiveness. Diaz wasn't getting outclassed and the rounds and fight were more competitive although the end result was worse. To each his own though.

                      Those aren't my theories either.

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