ATG Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr

[PowerpuG]

Probably too late, the names that would have done it are now too old or have moved on (Marg, SMM, PWill, Wright)

The current up and comers will not be able to earn their stripes in time to give him enough credit.


the only way i see it happeneing is if Cotto beats Pac, and SSM looks great again next matchup and Floyd beats SSM then Cotto impressively and then beat Pwill at 154.

that would put him in the mid 20's which is where a pac that loses to Cotto would be for me.

20's sounds about right. i got floyd in the 40's maybe 50's.. so what would a floyd win over pac do? move them both to about 30's? and if so who comes fist? don't mean to pick ur brain..i just agree with ur logic

[razor.thin]

trick question, only pacquiao is an atg of the two.

i see what you did there.

[DonTaseMeBrah]

MANNY PACQUIAO
years fought = 1995-2009 (15 years)
pro fights = 54
weight range over career = 36 pounds (106-142), spanning 11 divisions
record of opposition = 1,344-247-58 (81.5% win percentage)
KO % = 37 KOs in 49 wins (75.5%)
linear world championships = FOUR; flyweight (112), featherweight (126), junior lightweight (130), junior welterweight (140)
world titles = NINE; 112 (WBC), 122 (IBF, WBO), 126 (RING), 130 (RING, WBC), 135 (WBC), 140 (RING, IBO)
record against current/former titlists = 11-2-2
hall of fame "lock" opponents = FOUR; Marco Antonio Barrera (x2), Juan Manuel Marquez (x2), Erik Morales (x3), Oscar De La Hoya

FLOYD MAYWEATHER (all stats include upcoming Marquez bout)
years fought = 1996-2007, 2009 (13 years)
pro fights = 40
weight range over career = 20 pounds (130-150), spanning 5 divisions
record of opposition = 1,037-176-36 (83% win percentage)
KO % = 25 KOs in 39 wins (64.1%)
linear world championships = THREE; junior lightweight (130), lightweight (135), welterweight (147)
world titles = NINE; 130 (WBC), 135 (RING, WBC), 140 (WBC), 147 (RING, WBC, IBF, IBO), 154 (WBC)
record against current/former titlists = 12-0 (13-0 if he beats Marquez)
hall of fame "lock" opponents = TWO; Oscar De La Hoya, Juan Manuel Marquez

Advantage = Pacquiao

[PinoyZoi]

pbf's skills > pac's skills

How can you say PBF has better skills if he hasn't challenge himself with a WW like Shane Mosely, Miguel Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams?

Anyone can look good when your facing opponents who you are superior with.

[PowerpuG]

How can you say PBF has better skills if he hasn't challenge himself with a WW like Shane Mosely, Miguel Cotto, Margarito, Paul Williams?

Anyone can look good when your facing opponents who you are superior with.

look i like pac more than floyd but ur delusional if you think pac's skill level is above mayweathers

[PinoyZoi]

look i like pac more than floyd but ur delusional if you think pac's skill level is above mayweathers

Its like a High school student doing basic math (10+10=???). Of course the High school student is gonna look "SKILLED".

If the High school student was doing Calculus, thats when "SKILLS" actually count.

[JM1]

voted pacman

[hammerhiem]

20's sounds about right. i got floyd in the 40's maybe 50's.. so what would a floyd win over pac do? move them both to about 30's? and if so who comes fist? don't mean to pick ur brain..i just agree with ur logic

the problem is for Floyds win over Pac to mean enough to take him over pac, Pac would have to beat Cotto, if pac beats Cotto Floyd can't catch him by beating him if you know what i mean.

Pac Win vs cotto + loss vs Floyd >> Floyd Win vs JMM + Win vs Pac. imo.

What makes me giggle is that here we are talking over where in the top 40-20ATG these two fighters are yet hatton is a hypejob because he lost to them... thats some bazaar logic right there.

[DLT]

I voted Pac only for the simple fact that people hate Floyd and pray for his downfall while they all love Pac, as you can see by this poll. Infact, if Cotto hadnt loss to Margarito then I bet anything that even Cotto would come out better on one of these polls than Floyd and we all know thats a joke

[PowerpuG]

Its like a High school student doing basic math (10+10=???). Of course the High school student is gonna look "SKILLED".

If the High school student was doing Calculus, thats when "SKILLS" actually count.

Ok floyds a high school student, mannys a professor..geeze... c'mon bro, you know mannys not a technician... he's got great heart, lots of speed, balls, good chin, great corner, charisma.. but floyd is the more skillful of the two.. manny's the better fighter..floyds the better boxer