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  • Originally posted by Iceta View Post
    I understand why the Pac fans don't like Floyd, and I don't either. But the Pacman has had the majority of the cake and JMM needs to eat too. And as far as Pacquiao's victory over JMM in the second fight, I didn't think it was a robbery but it could've easily have gone to JMM. There are a lot of aspects of how you can score it. You could factor in the 3rd round maybe being 10-7 if Bayless penalized JMM for grabbing the rope and sitting on it for a second. But you could also make a case for the 8th round being a 10-8 round because Manny was getting the **** beat out of him in that round. I also think JMM closed the last two rounds out a lot stronger and landed more punches in those rounds.

    One thing that makes me think that Pacquiao doesn't pose any more threat to Floyd than JMM is because Manny has never fought a pure boxer where as JMM has. JMM was robbed against John more so than he was against Pacquiao, and then you have to factor in opponents like Casamayor and Gainer on his resume. They fit the description of mobile boxers. And Pacquiao has never fought anybody with that style.
    Very good post! I always said and if those on here have read
    my posts from the beginning, Manny Pacquiao has problems
    with counter punchers with patience that can box. 1st Morales
    and Jmm. Floyd would beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao is open for
    counters all day. Aggressive straight forward fighters will
    always fall to Manny because of his speed. When JMM decided
    to box and not brawl, Manny was clueless on how to approach
    him.

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    • I don't get it

      People are criticizing Floyd for coming back and Fighting JMM
      instead of Mosley after 2 YEARS but NOT getting on Cotto for
      coming back after 7 months and fighting Jennings for Williams
      VACANT title? Why can't Floyd have a tune up fight without it
      being a big deal? If you ask me, JMM is a dangerous opponent
      tune up or other wise. He's one of the best in the world and
      gave Pacquiao nightmares both times. It's funny how people
      talk about Castillo when they say he beat Floyd the first time
      BUT not taking into consideration that Floyd gave him a rematch
      and beat him CONVINCINGLY while Pacquiao has a draw with JMM
      and a questionable 2nd win. Floyd came back and PROVED he could
      beat his toughest opponent to date BUT Pacquiao couldn't because
      the 2nd fight could have went EITHER WAY.

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      • Originally posted by BabyFaceAssasin View Post
        Everyone knows that if Mayweather wanted to fight Cotto it would happen. Cotto doesn't call out anybody...he lets Arum handle his business for him. I don't dispute the fact that Floyd is the number 1 p4p fighter, but Cotto was the fight that made sense, and Floyd didn't want it...he still doesn't want it. The article says he's fighting Marquez cuz he beat Pacquiao...notice Floyd said nothing about Cotto. I'm no huge Cotto fan, but Floyd doesn't want it with him.
        I still can't believe people think Cotto can beat Mayweather???
        no way....... Cotto is just not that good because if he was he
        would have dominated Antonio Margarito. With Cotto's youth
        and strength, he should be beating guys like Mosley and Clottey
        more convincingly. Not saying that Mosley and Clottey are a
        walk in the park but Cotto had all the pros in his favor but he
        he just isn't fully developed and technically ring gifted. Sure
        he is ballsy but them kind of fighters will be beat eventually
        and bad and most likely will have a short career. Cotto's
        like 27/28 and people are already saying he is done off?
        How could he beat this era's best technical boxer in the
        sport?

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        • Originally posted by dorruel2.0 View Post
          hatton vs floyd anyone?
          So you really think the referee made a difference in the Floyd fight?
          Ha ha ha ha!! Hatton was dead meat anyway TOO MUCH skill for
          ol Ricky. If anything the referee stopped the fight from being a hug
          fest like Hatton's previous fights. Floyd dominated him on the outside
          and the inside. Some of you are too funny with trying to find things
          to discredit Floyd. That's just as funny as people saying Judah was
          dominating Floyd.

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            So you really think the referee made a difference in the Floyd fight?
            Ha ha ha ha!! Hatton was dead meat anyway TOO MUCH skill for
            ol Ricky. If anything the referee stopped the fight from being a hug
            fest like Hatton's previous fights. Floyd dominated him on the outside
            and the inside. Some of you are too funny with trying to find things
            to discredit Floyd. That's just as funny as people saying Judah was
            dominating Floyd.
            Do you really think the refmade a diff in the Judah and Corley fights??? NOO
            And no i dont believe the ref wouldv changed the outcome of that fight Floyd was too good that night. But he did get help from Cortez(I was rooting for Floyd in this fight) im not discrediting him, if anything i discredit Pac for fighting his leftovers. Judah wasnt dominating but he was winning the first half of their fight, and won more rounds against Floyd than he did against Cotto.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              I still can't believe people think Cotto can beat Mayweather???
              no way....... Cotto is just not that good because if he was he
              would have dominated Antonio Margarito. With Cotto's youth
              and strength, he should be beating guys like Mosley and Clottey
              more convincingly. Not saying that Mosley and Clottey are a
              walk in the park but Cotto had all the pros in his favor but he
              he just isn't fully developed and technically ring gifted. Sure
              he is ballsy but them kind of fighters will be beat eventually
              and bad and most likely will have a short career. Cotto's
              like 27/28 and people are already saying he is done off?
              How could he beat this era's best technical boxer in the
              sport?
              At least cotto has the balls to fight Mosley and Clottey, wheras Floyd wheres his skirt and picks on a lightweight unproven at a higher weight class than 135. I believe Cotto has a much better chance to beat Floyd than Marquez, Hatton, Judah,etc do. Wouldnt you agree?

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              • The main criticisim is that JMM is totally unproven at this weight. And Floyd is a fully fledged WW, who has fought at LMW with ease.

                JMM has had two very tough fights at LW, now Floyd wants him to move up again??
                Obviously it is a lob sided fight in favour of Floyd.


                If Floyd wanted a tough fight, he should have fought Cotto, whom most people believe he could beat easily. That would silence the critics.

                Floyd is his own worst enemy.

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                • Originally posted by Bob Anomaly View Post
                  The main criticisim is that JMM is totally unproven at this weight. And Floyd is a fully fledged WW, who has fought at LMW with ease.

                  JMM has had two very tough fights at LW, now Floyd wants him to move up again??
                  Obviously it is a lob sided fight in favour of Floyd.


                  If Floyd wanted a tough fight, he should have fought Cotto, whom most people believe he could beat easily. That would silence the critics.

                  Floyd is his own worst enemy.
                  Marquez called Floyd out. De la Hoya made Manny move up
                  and he came down same as Floyd? What's problem? Guys
                  move up for bigger opportunities all the time, Floyd moved
                  through 5 divisions and the same with other boxers, fighters
                  have to fight at a weight they never fought at before all the
                  time. JMM moved up to Light weight and knocked two bigger
                  guys who were comfortable in that division and were champions.

                  Why should Floyd have to come back and fight a bigger guy
                  after a two year lay off? Cotto had a 7 month lay off and came
                  back to fight Jennings for a vacant title when Williams was looking
                  for a fight. What makes Cotto more dangerous than JMM? JMM
                  technical fight game is superior to Cotto's. The only thing Cotto
                  has is a bigger punch with NO strategy. A fighter who thinks
                  is always more dangerous than a guy who just has a punch
                  because you can take the punch away but you can't take the
                  ring IQ away.

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                  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    Marquez called Floyd out. De la Hoya made Manny move up
                    and he came down same as Floyd? What's problem? Guys
                    move up for bigger opportunities all the time, Floyd moved
                    through 5 divisions and the same with other boxers, fighters
                    have to fight at a weight they never fought at before all the
                    time. JMM moved up to Light weight and knocked two bigger
                    guys who were comfortable in that division and were champions.

                    Why should Floyd have to come back and fight a bigger guy
                    after a two year lay off? Cotto had a 7 month lay off and came
                    back to fight Jennings for a vacant title when Williams was looking
                    for a fight. What makes Cotto more dangerous than JMM? JMM
                    technical fight game is superior to Cotto's. The only thing Cotto
                    has is a bigger punch with NO strategy. A fighter who thinks
                    is always more dangerous than a guy who just has a punch
                    because you can take the punch away but you can't take the
                    ring IQ away.
                    what a hater

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                    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      People are criticizing Floyd for coming back and Fighting JMM
                      instead of Mosley after 2 YEARS but NOT getting on Cotto for
                      coming back after 7 months and fighting Jennings for Williams
                      VACANT title? Why can't Floyd have a tune up fight without it
                      being a big deal? If you ask me, JMM is a dangerous opponent
                      tune up or other wise. He's one of the best in the world and
                      gave Pacquiao nightmares both times. It's funny how people
                      talk about Castillo when they say he beat Floyd the first time
                      BUT not taking into consideration that Floyd gave him a rematch
                      and beat him CONVINCINGLY while Pacquiao has a draw with JMM
                      and a questionable 2nd win. Floyd came back and PROVED he could
                      beat his toughest opponent to date BUT Pacquiao couldn't because
                      the 2nd fight could have went EITHER WAY.
                      Cotto took a massive beating by the hands of yet another opponent that Floyd ducked, before his 7 month break..Cotto fought Shane as well before that,then after Jennings fought Clottey, PLEASE dont let Cottos name EVER come out of your mouth again when trying to defend Mayweater for fighting a light weight.

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