note to Donaire: You are not Jones Jr

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  • WhoreUs
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    #11
    i seriously doubt the penalosas trained him to fight like that.

    don't know what the hell he's doing but if he doesn't go back to the basics of keeping his left up and just boxing , he's gonna get ktfo.

    he doesn't throw enough combos , relies on one or two punches at a time , that wannabe flashy defense does nothing for me.

    he has hand speed and power.

    stick to the basic fundamentals. keep your hands up and just box.

    the reason he was getting tagged was because his dumb ass was doing all that fancy , worthless movement.

    how about you just block punches nonito? instead of dancing like a clown. let the "slick" fighters do that. you know the slick fighters that don't make any money nor get fights.

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    • El Jesus
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      #12
      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
      i seriously doubt the penalosas trained him to fight like that.

      don't know what the hell he's doing but if he doesn't go back to the basics of keeping his left up and just boxing , he's gonna get ktfo.

      he doesn't throw enough combos , relies on one or two punches at a time , that wannabe flashy defense does nothing for me.

      he has hand speed and power.

      stick to the basic fundamentals. keep your hands up and just box.

      the reason he was getting tagged was because his dumb ass was doing all the fancy , worthless movement.
      Donaire is honestly one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the lower division and it was dissapointing to see him have a night like that against a guy he honestly could have had out of there in 6.

      I think you are actually the first person to understand my topic and actually read it.

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      • street bully
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        #13
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        i seriously doubt the penalosas trained him to fight like that.

        don't know what the hell he's doing but if he doesn't go back to the basics of keeping his left up and just boxing , he's gonna get ktfo.

        he doesn't throw enough combos , relies on one or two punches at a time , that wannabe flashy defense does nothing for me.

        he has hand speed and power.

        stick to the basic fundamentals. keep your hands up and just box.

        the reason he was getting tagged was because his dumb ass was doing all that fancy , worthless movement.

        how about you just block punches nonito? instead of dancing like a clown. let the "slick" fighters do that. you know the slick fighters that don't make any money nor get fights.
        He isn't gifted enough to get away with that stuff. He dissapointed me last night, but I think he will improve.

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        • WhoreUs
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          #14
          Originally posted by El Jesus
          Donaire is honestly one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the lower division and it was dissapointing to see him have a night like that against a guy he honestly could have had out of there in 6.

          I think you are actually the first person to understand my topic and actually read it.
          don't know what the hell he was doing last night.

          showing off? showboating?

          he fought dumb. the only time rafael tagged him for the most part was when he was running in circles.

          rafael would just lunge at where he thought nonito would be.

          i know he ate some leather from rafael when they stood toe to toe but it happens.

          he should circle to make rafael reset his stance. not circle just to circle.

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          • Alibata
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Jesus
            What does conception not making weight have to do with anything?

            Also, "new weight" is also not all that big, god forbid you move from 112 to 115. talk to me when he moves to 122, then ill factor that in. not to mention donaires walk around weight is huge regardless, and he looked much bigger than conception.
            Your dumb man. Your funny too that you don't know what not making weight has to do with anything. hahahahaha! It has ALOT to do with. Let me explain something to you about boxing. Making weight does not just mean going into Jenny Craig and doing Richard Simmons aerobics. Making weight takes a toll on a fighters strength and stamina. It takes something out of a fighter to make weight. Donaire weighed in at 115 and his muscle tone and strength is that of a man 115. If donaire wanted to fight at 122 he would not just fatten up like a dumb ass like you would think but he would actually build muscle and strength to compete at that weight. Concepcion did not have to endure dehydration and the effects of trying to make weight and had the strength of a man a who would be heavier than fighters a weight class above. You are an idiot if you think the weight did not make a difference. The weight he weighed in he was over the batamweight limit fighting at super fly. What an idiot some of these haters are.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Alibata
              Your dumb man. Your funny too that you don't know what not making weight has to do with anything. hahahahaha! It has ALOT to do with. Let me explain something to you about boxing. Making weight does not just mean going into Jenny Craig and doing Richard Simmons aerobics. Making weight takes a toll on a fighters strength and stamina. It takes something out of a fighter to make weight. Donaire weighed in at 115 and his muscle tone and strength is that of a man 115. If donaire wanted to fight at 122 he would not just fatten up like a dumb ass like you would think but he would actually build muscle and strength to compete at that weight. Concepcion did not have to endure dehydration and the effects of trying to make weight and had the strength of a man a who would be heavier than fighters a weight class above. You are an idiot if you think the weight did not make a difference. The weight he weighed in he was over the batamweight limit fighting at super fly. What an idiot some of these haters are.

              Its settled.

              Im dumb.

              Thank you for your contribution.

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              • WhoreUs
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                #17
                Originally posted by street bully
                He isn't gifted enough to get away with that stuff. He dissapointed me last night, but I think he will improve.
                he's a gifted fighter.

                he has handspeed , height and reach for his weight class , good power.

                some guys are just not meant to run around and dance fancy like that.

                he had the power to back off rafael. he let rafael gain confidence by backing up so much. (kinda like cotto against marg)

                with him running like that he took away his own power. no matter how strong you are you can't get power on your punches when your feet is not set.



                don't know what's wrong with him but he needs to get his head together.

                did he get big headed? listen to his good press too much?

                don't know but him styling and gelling his hair for a fight and doing that silly show off kung fu/karate jump back on your feet makes me wonder.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Alibata
                  Your dumb man. Your funny too that you don't know what not making weight has to do with anything. hahahahaha! It has ALOT to do with. Let me explain something to you about boxing. Making weight does not just mean going into Jenny Craig and doing Richard Simmons aerobics. Making weight takes a toll on a fighters strength and stamina. It takes something out of a fighter to make weight. Donaire weighed in at 115 and his muscle tone and strength is that of a man 115. If donaire wanted to fight at 122 he would not just fatten up like a dumb ass like you would think but he would actually build muscle and strength to compete at that weight. Concepcion did not have to endure dehydration and the effects of trying to make weight and had the strength of a man a who would be heavier than fighters a weight class above. You are an idiot if you think the weight did not make a difference. The weight he weighed in he was over the batamweight limit fighting at super fly. What an idiot some of these haters are.
                  oh so now the weight is an issue for fighters? why wasnt it an issue for morales when he had trouble making weight against pacquiao? you ignorant ***, stfu.

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                  • El Jesus
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                    he's a gifted fighter.

                    he has handspeed , height and reach for his weight class , good power.

                    some guys are just not meant to run around and dance fancy like that.

                    he had the power to back off rafael. he let rafael gain confidence by backing up so much. (kinda like cotto against marg)

                    with him running like that he took away his own power. no matter how strong you are you can't get power on your punches when your feet is not set.



                    don't know what's wrong with him but he needs to get his head together.

                    did he get big headed? listen to his good press too much?

                    don't know but him styling and gelling his hair for a fight and doing that silly show off kung fu/karate jump back on your feet makes me wonder.

                    Donaire could land anytime he wanted everytime Rafeal reached with his jab. Rafeal was so square and so hittable, anytime concepcion barged in, Donaire dropped that uppercut on him, and then there were just points where it was like he didint want to fight. He also did something kostya tszyu used to do which is admire his own power as opposed to just finishing the job.

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                    • street bully
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mr._Pink
                      he's a gifted fighter.

                      he has handspeed , height and reach for his weight class , good power.

                      some guys are just not meant to run around and dance fancy like that.

                      he had the power to back off rafael. he let rafael gain confidence by backing up so much. (kinda like cotto against marg)

                      with him running like that he took away his own power. no matter how strong you are you can't get power on your punches when your feet is not set.



                      don't know what's wrong with him but he needs to get his head together.

                      did he get big headed? listen to his good press too much?

                      don't know but him styling and gelling his hair for a fight and doing that silly show off kung fu/karate jump back on your feet makes me wonder.
                      I think so. He seems to have fell in love with himself. Still a very good fighter though, he needs to go bac to his usual style. He seemed to go prince hameD in there.

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