note to Donaire: You are not Jones Jr

**Bushidō** · 08-16-2009, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by El Jesus

Dude has got to go back to the fundamentals that got him where he was. Being a power puncher and throwing one punch at a time, using the whole ring for 2 minutes to throw 3 punches isnt going to cut it as he moves up in weight and fights guys that ARENT 5'4.

His left hand was low the entire fight, and his reflexes are not to the point where he can just use head movement and come out of nowhere fight some straight right hand.

Conception was open all night for the same right hand everytime he walked in, jab or not, and Donaire just stared at him half the time running around occasionally throwing an uppercut.

Dumbazz mario lopez talking about "Hes so gifted like jones jr he can rely on reflexes"

Thats bull****, if he did that against darchinyan hed be laying on the canvas like an infantile ******, he got to this stage using his excellent abilities as a boxer puncher as opposed to doing his best mayweather impersonation (without the defense).

I really hope he retools and rethinks that last fight, becuz conception is NOT that good to be giving him a hard fight like he did.

He fought a guy that didn't even try to make weight and this was a new weight for Donaire. I thought he could have looked better but next time he will get to fight someone that actaully makes weight. He did remind me of a young Juan Manuel Marquez with his sharp accuracy

**El Jesus** · 08-16-2009, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by Left Hook Happy

He fought a guy that didn't even try to make weight and this was a new weight for Donaire. I thought he could have looked better but next time he will get to fight someone that actaully makes weight. He did remind me of a young Juan Manuel Marquez with his sharp accuracy

What does conception not making weight have to do with anything?

Also, "new weight" is also not all that big, god forbid you move from 112 to 115. talk to me when he moves to 122, then ill factor that in. not to mention donaires walk around weight is huge regardless, and he looked much bigger than conception.

**Glamour Puss** · 08-16-2009, 04:30 PM

Nonito is not Roy Jones.

But who cares. Donaire is a damn good fighter who's only gonna get better.

**No Ceiling** · 08-16-2009, 04:36 PM

nonito top 10 ATG ballet dancer...

**Bushidō** · 08-16-2009, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by El Jesus

What does conception not making weight have to do with anything?

Also, "new weight" is also not all that big, god forbid you move from 112 to 115. talk to me when he moves to 122, then ill factor that in. not to mention donaires walk around weight is huge regardless, and he looked much bigger than conception.

That why they have like 3 or 4 pounds to separate the difference classes. of course it makes a difference. Concepcion didn't make weight and on top of that he gained even more weight after the weighin. Just saying. There are weighins for a reason. Anyways I know you are biased because your argument is that a couple pounds don't matter.

**El Jesus** · 08-16-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Left Hook Happy

That why they have like 3 or 4 pounds to separate the difference classes. of course it makes a difference. Concepcion didn't make weight and on top of that he gained even more weight after the weighin. Just saying. There are weighins for a reason. Anyways I know you are biased because your argument is that a couple pounds don't matter.

Please explain to me what concepcion not making weight had ANYTHING to do with Nonito donaire looking as bad as he did. Please.

This thread is about his performance and him moving up in weight is not pertinent to that. He didint have to drain as much this time, Donaire looked bigger than concepcion in there, thats undeniable.

**Bushidō** · 08-16-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by El Jesus

Please explain to me what concepcion not making weight had ANYTHING to do with Nonito donaire looking as bad as he did. Please.

This thread is about his performance and him moving up in weight is not pertinent to that. He didint have to drain as much this time, Donaire looked bigger than concepcion in there, thats undeniable.

Maybe he didn't look as good because his opponent was much bigger than he expected? How hard is it to put two and two together

**Bushidō** · 08-16-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by El Jesus

Please explain to me what concepcion not making weight had ANYTHING to do with Nonito donaire looking as bad as he did. Please.

This thread is about his performance and him moving up in weight is not pertinent to that. He didint have to drain as much this time, Donaire looked bigger than concepcion in there, thats undeniable.

Maybe he didn't look as good because his opponent was much bigger than he expected? How hard is it to put two and two together

And Yes Donaire looked bigger in there but maybe he wasn't adjusted to concepcions weight and power

**El Jesus** · 08-16-2009, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Left Hook Happy

Maybe he didn't look as good because his opponent was much bigger than he expected? How hard is it to put two and two together

And Yes Donaire looked bigger in there but maybe he wasn't adjusted to concepcions weight and power

Clearly if you have seen donaire fight, and i have a good 10 times at this point, it had nothing to do with that guys size, to come to that conclusion is ridiculous on top of being asinine.

Donaire struggled because he abandoned technique and he abandoned fundamentals in favor of throwing one power punch at a time, rarely using the jab, dropping his left hand, and in some instances, just plain not throwing. He hardly kepts his hands up the whole fight and took unnessecary damage.

None of that has ANYTHING to do with Concepcion coming in overweight. At all.

note to Donaire: You are not Jones Jr