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  • Glamour Puss
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    #71
    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
    You are wise beyond your years.
    Its not that hard to figure out if you just pay attention to something other than bull**** American media and their silly Left vs. Right charade.

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    • TheNegation
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      #72
      Originally posted by ColtraneChanges
      BJJ is so bloody. There's nothing artful about Bruce Lee either. All that leg kicking **** is so overrated. Floyd would clearly beat the brakes off that tiny asian dude. Boxing is clearly more complicated than MMA anyway. Worrying about all them other bull**** styles like Judo, BJJ, Wrestling, Karate, Muay Thai, Sambo makes MMA too ****ing simple. Straight, Jab, Hook, Uppercut is on some Einstein **** though. MMA needs some real class though. Ain't nobody classier than Bob Arum, Don King, and Cedric Kushner. These promoters are the reason why the boxing will never die. Real Men only use fists in a REAL FIGHT. Brazil, Japan, China, Koreans, Russians... **** outta here with all that kicking, gay teabagging, **** hugging ****.
      Is this humor I sense or a failed troll attempt?

      Originally posted by Check
      Boxing is still considered somewhat classy and a sport. MMA is about blood, promotes blood, and is simply a bloodsport. Rich people go see boxing because its human poetry. ****y, loud mouthed, ******s go see MMA because they want to see blood and don't care about the well being of the fighters.
      You're perception of MMA, it's spectators, and combat sports in general is sad.

      Obviously MMA cares more about fighter saftey than boxing by not allowing a fighter to take repeated shots to the head after already getting their clock cleaned. Just compare the death toll in boxing annually to the total deaths in MMA. Boxing loses by a considerable margin. They have what 5 deaths a year on average?

      These are combat sports. To say one is more classy than the other is ******ed.

      If you have two peices of **** and one smells worse than the other piece of ****, it doesn't matter which ones smells worse because it's still a piece of ****.

      Crooked boxing promoters and boxers who use race and money of all things to sell their fights and run their business isn't exactly classy and neither is a douchetard like Brock Lesnar.


      Boxing=chess due to it highly calculating attacks strictly to one thing, the head. MMA is more of checkers due to its high amount of attacks since you have to whole body to work.
      They both take a considerable amount of skill and dedication.

      Boxing will always be the greater sport because its more refined and just easier on the eyes. /thread
      This I can agree with because it's easy for someone to see what's going on in a boxing match, one guy is trying to knock the other guy out or punch him more times.

      MMA is more complicated, more diverse and IMO, makes it more entertaining.

      And for people who say boxing was the first art of combat, you are wrong. Pankration has been around for centuries and was the first form of combat and we see it's evolution in modern day Mixed Martial Arts
      Last edited by TheNegation; 08-15-2009, 04:16 PM.

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      • polybus
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        #73
        just becouse you dont know the history does not mean there is not one

        like how the people from Ireland where also brought to the U.S as ******

        no one talks about it buts its history dig a little and youll see .

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        • Drunken Cat
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          #74
          Originally posted by Fulcrum29
          Yea, not bad watching a legend at work..at least boxing has legends. MMA has no such thing and the last legend they had (Couture) got destroyed by a WWF wrestler... That's equivalent to Undertaker coming to Boxing and KTFO Vitali Klitschko. What a joke UFC is.
          You should take Fedor out of you AV. Your comments are a disgrace to the greatest MMA fighter to ever live.

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          • Kakutogi-Gumi
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            #75
            Albuquerque New Mexico.

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            • Kakutogi-Gumi
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              #76
              Let it be known that the author thinks that all farm boys can and will become Lawyers, Bankers and Doctors.

              Let it also be known that the author has no clue of Big 10 Wrestling and how hardcore it is in it's respective states.

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              • Kakutogi-Gumi
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                #77
                double post

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                • Caesar
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                  #78
                  very good thread thank you, i agree with it

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                  • pugilistfan
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                    #79
                    Dont know how I came across this thread. But I did.

                    $20 a month for boxing.
                    $125 a month for MMA.

                    At the boxing gym I have great fighters, great amatuers and a former professional who has been in there with elite fighters.

                    At the MMA gym, the boxing class I attended was tought by some amateur who has no idea what hes talking about, probably doesnt even watch alot of boxing and there were about 50 people in the class. Nobody gets any 1 on 1 instruction. The whole class was just a bloody mess. The people there were absolutely terrible, they didnt know how to punch and they've been there for MONTHS.

                    The bottom line is, MMA is a middle-upper class sport. There is simply no denying this. Nearly all the Brazilians in MMA come from middle-class neighbourhoods. The Gracies were an upper class family. Many of the white American fighters you see come from middle-class if not upper class families.

                    Sure there are some examples in boxing, but for the most part the best fighters in the sport come from lower-class backgrounds. And I truly believe it reflects in the sport. They have an incentive to fight. And because of that you will never see fights like Silva/Leites, Cote/Silva, Silva/Griffin where fighters are simply too afraid to engage, lay on their back or simply quit.

                    MMA gyms are fancy, they got brand new equipment, comfortable mats, tons of money. It spoils you. The boxing gyms i've been too are nothing like that. It keeps you humble, keeps you motivated.

                    Look at MMA'ers, most of them use fancy workout equipment, use fancy methods to improve cardio even though they never actually win fights (Wanderlei) etc.

                    But, boxers are old-school. And that makes them god damn bad ass mother f'kers. Marquez is throwing god damn ROCKS. ROCKS for f'ks sake. Man I love that guy.

                    A large percentage of the people at my boxing gym, if they were to get into a fight, im quite confident if they got hit they would fight right back.

                    Unfortunately, these suburban kids at MMA gyms who are attending jiu jitsu classes likely would fold like a lawn chair when faced with adversity. They get hit, they probably go down and curl up in a ball.

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                    • Fulcrum29
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by pugilistfan
                      Dont know how I came across this thread. But I did.

                      $20 a month for boxing.
                      $125 a month for MMA.

                      At the boxing gym I have great fighters, great amatuers and a former professional who has been in there with elite fighters.

                      At the MMA gym, the boxing class I attended was tought by some amateur who has no idea what hes talking about, probably doesnt even watch alot of boxing and there were about 50 people in the class. Nobody gets any 1 on 1 instruction. The whole class was just a bloody mess. The people there were absolutely terrible, they didnt know how to punch and they've been there for MONTHS.

                      The bottom line is, MMA is a middle-upper class sport. There is simply no denying this. Nearly all the Brazilians in MMA come from middle-class neighbourhoods. The Gracies were an upper class family. Many of the white American fighters you see come from middle-class if not upper class families.

                      Sure there are some examples in boxing, but for the most part the best fighters in the sport come from lower-class backgrounds. And I truly believe it reflects in the sport. They have an incentive to fight. And because of that you will never see fights like Silva/Leites, Cote/Silva, Silva/Griffin where fighters are simply too afraid to engage, lay on their back or simply quit.

                      MMA gyms are fancy, they got brand new equipment, comfortable mats, tons of money. It spoils you. The boxing gyms i've been too are nothing like that. It keeps you humble, keeps you motivated.

                      Look at MMA'ers, most of them use fancy workout equipment, use fancy methods to improve cardio even though they never actually win fights (Wanderlei) etc.

                      But, boxers are old-school. And that makes them god damn bad ass mother f'kers. Marquez is throwing god damn ROCKS. ROCKS for f'ks sake. Man I love that guy.

                      A large percentage of the people at my boxing gym, if they were to get into a fight, im quite confident if they got hit they would fight right back.

                      Unfortunately, these suburban kids at MMA gyms who are attending jiu jitsu classes likely would fold like a lawn chair when faced with adversity. They get hit, they probably go down and curl up in a ball.
                      absolutely true. good post.

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