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MMA is more complicated, more diverse and IMO, makes it more entertaining.
Basketball = good
Basketball + tackling = better
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I hate this argument. It's like saying:
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UFC is marketed towards white americans.. buuuut to say there's no rags to richest stories is goin a bit far.. yes there's alot of college athletes but (correct me if i'm wrong mma fans) isn't the ufc dominated by brazilians? They're not exactley an economic superpower..Comment
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Basketball = good
Slamball = better
The bottom line is MMA fans always lose arguments like this when debating which sport is more difficult. Really, I couldnt care less but only an idiot or a blind nuthugger would say MMA is more difficult.
Lesnar got a title in 4 fights. And went through 3 really good HW's to do so. Lesnar has a collegiate wrestling background, didnt wrestle for 6 years while he worked as a WWE wrestler. He went to the NFL, got cut than tried MMA.
Another example is Todd Duffee who came out of nowhere to beat a solid MMA HW in Assuerio Silva and then defeated another solid HW in Tim Hague last night. Duffee's background is mediocre at best. He started boxing at the age of 16, and he really never competed in it. Than in his late teens he began grappling and it wasnt until a couple years ago he decided to go to an MMA gym.
Now Duffee is 23 years old with a freakishly strong body and just notched 2 good wins in his 4th and 5th fights respectively.
In MMA, athleticism, strength and size MATTERS alot more then in Boxing.
Boxing is simply more difficult. Its not debatable, its just FACT.Comment
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To me it's quality over quantity. Sometimes less is more.
I'd rather watch two of the best boxers in the world go at in boxing then watch guys who are essentially jacks of all trades go at it in MMA. I'm not a fan of Olympic style wrestling but I can respect it. However, if combine the two you end up with a watered down version of each. I know there are some MMA guys who are accomplished wrestlers, for example, but they would ultimately have to engage in other forms of fighting in MMA which again would create a watered down performance.
Another analogy (those outside of the US might not get it, though). It's like choosing between a steak dinner at Ruth Chris or the steak buffet at Golden Corral. I'd take the former every time.Comment
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No it's not like saying that. When it pertains to combat sports diversity is what attracts people and one of the reasons it's growing so fast
and I hate this argument. You mean to tell me that only white people watch MMA and everyone else finds boxing entertaining? That's ridiculous.
There are a lot of top fighters who are brazilian's and one of the reasons is there is literally nothing to do in Brazil besides fight and play soccer. LOL
Are you ****ing kidding me?^^^
That is the biggest load of horse **** I've ever heard. There are very few countries on earth and no state in American that is more poverty stricken and crime ridden than Brazil and I'd be willing to be my life savings on that.Comment
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They both require a high level of skill. Maybe I went overboard saying it's more difficult. But only being required to master one discipline and an incomplete one at that compared to 3 or 4 for MMA you can't say it doesn't take skill, dedication and that it's not difficult.
and he was training for 3 years before he made his debut, it's not like he went directly form WWE to football and made his debut the next week with no formal training.Lesnar got a title in 4 fights. And went through 3 really good HW's to do so. Lesnar has a collegiate wrestling background, didnt wrestle for 6 years while he worked as a WWE wrestler. He went to the NFL, got cut than tried MMA.
Assuerio Silva and Tim Hague are not top fighters not even top 30. Assuerio Silva wasn't even able to get a win in the UFC. The guy was like 0-4 when he got cut.Another example is Todd Duffee who came out of nowhere to beat a solid MMA HW in Assuerio Silva and then defeated another solid HW in Tim Hague last night. Duffee's background is mediocre at best. He started boxing at the age of 16, and he really never competed in it. Than in his late teens he began grappling and it wasnt until a couple years ago he decided to go to an MMA gym.
Of course it does because it can actually be used in a fight, but that doesn't mean all fighters are completely devoid of skill.In MMA, athleticism, strength and size MATTERS alot more then in Boxing.
Regardless, you need to be somewhat athletic to compete in any combat sport at an elite level.
That's your opinion, it's not factBoxing is simply more difficult. Its not debatable, its just FACT.Comment
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Man, you need to do research. Those Brazilians you see in MMA, very few of them are from poverty stricken neighbourhoods. Gracies were super loaded and many of them come from middle-class backgrounds.
And when the hell did I doubt Brazil is crime ridden and poverty stricken. My point is that very FEW MMA'ers come from those backgrounds. Noguiera's are from a middle class neighbourhood, BTT is in a rich neighbourhood in Rio.
Just relax.
MMA is NOT very popular in MMA, in fact the most popular combat sport athlete is not an MMAer it was Aceleino Freites...A BOXER.
Volleyball, Soccer, basketball are simply more popular.
Dont comment on something you know nothing about.Comment
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You dont have to MASTER ANY SKILLS IN MMA. In boxing, you DO. How is boxing an incomplete skill? That literally makes no sense.
He was training from what I understand 2 years, but thats beside the point. The point is, Lesnar is not a skilled fighter, hes an athletic one. He was never a technical wrestler, he relied on his physical attributes to win matches in wrestling not his technical ability.
Lesnar walked into MMA and beat guys, smashed guys that have been training in this sport for nearly a decade if not longer.
People talk about having to be well-rounded in MMA to succeed but thats just a huge load of BS. Wrestling is the only thing Lesnar is good at. Its the only thing Guida, Sherk and many other MMAers are good at, just like Maia is in BJJ as is Aoki, Monson etc. And they are all VERY good in MMA.
Wrestling is supposed to be a COMPONENT of MMA. Lesnar is dominating people with ONE COMPONENT.
Assuerio Silva and Tim Hague are actually pretty good fighters and Duffee at the age of 23-24 with a crappy background beat both those guys.
The fact that I say boxing is more difficult is supported with a ton of FACTS. Thats the bottom line.
And I dont see how being good at one thing, decent at another is more difficult than being AMAZING at one thing.
MMA is the easier sport to succeed in.Comment
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I also find that MMA'ers tend to overvalue a fighters capabilities moreso than any other combat sport.
Just look at Anderson Silva. This guy was getting tagged with huge shots, looked lost on the inside and against the ropes when he sparred a 3-3-2 journeyman fighter in boxing at wild card gym.
And Silva in MMA is absolutely untouchable. Griffin who held a belt as early as last year couldnt even land a punch.
Silva, at best is an average boxer. Whats that say about the rest of MMA?
Another issue. BLACK BELTS. How many times do we hear "this person has a black belt?" You hear it a ton. The bottom line is there are thousands of blackbelts in the world. And very few of them actually deserve it and many of them are fighting at a high level in MMA. Many of them were given out to fighters as a way to legitimize their gym and at the same time legitimizing the fighter. But really, does Wand or Anderson and many others actually deserve a black belt? Thats nonsense. Silva got mounted by Lutter and dropped the 1st round against Henderson. Sure he submitted both but both times those submissions were a result of strikes not his superior striking ability.Comment
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