Boxing For the Under Privileged Masses, MMA for Socio-Economic Elite Minority

[Drunken Cat]

You always need to read something if you plan to respond to it without pure ignorance and folly. You failed to do so and thus your response was just ignorant and reactionary.

Son, you are not on my level. I responded to points which I had indeed read, and stated my impression based on that. You telling me I need to read some crap you wrote is pure folly. I read enough to see it was crap, and I simply responded to what I had read.

[Drunken Cat]

Perhaps I can issue a point-by-point refutation later on

[Fulcrum29]

Lol at calling all MMA fighters intellectuals. Ancient gladiators didn't just throw punches, they used every technique in there power to beat there opponent same as MMA fighters.And most of the top wrestlers got there start because wrestling is offered free in public schools across america.

That doesn't change the fact that they were top notch wrestlers in high school and college when many top boxers NEVER EVEN WENT TO HIGH SCHOOl to begin with.

And no, ancient gladiators didn't roll around on the floor, tea bagging each other, and straddling each other in a "full mount." Sorry, they fought like warriors standing up with weapons for extended periods of time until blood, sweat, and tears were shed which is far more akin to boxing than current MMA. Boxers are the only true gladiators. They fight for 12 3 minute rounds for a total of 36 minutes of combat. A typical MMA match lasts 1-2 minutes and has a total of 5-20 landed blows. Not even a comparison. MMA is "Gladiator-Lite"

[Check]

Most MMA fans are ******s, and not suburban kids, that have been raised in a good household. You trying to say these people that got wrestling scholarships from a university makes them smart and in a good situation is wrong. A lot of college athletes are dumb as bricks.

[Hotsoup]

It all boils down to the product. Boxing is a better product then MMA. MMA has hit it's peak with it's current amatureish take on boxing with 4oz gloves. I never miss an MMA event but for the most part, most MMA fights are boring to watch. Once it evolves back on to the ground, and trust me it will, it will be even more boring.

But with guys like Silva and Machida dominating the sport right now, I think it's going to inspire generations of fighters to take their striking more seriously and the overall striking skills of MMA fighters will rise in the years to come.

And MMA fans are very knowlegable when it comes to all the differents aspects of ground fighting, I just watched Demian Maia vs. Jason Mcdonald last night and for every submission attept and change of position the crowd was totally in to it and cheering them on. Ground fighting can be exciting.

[Fulcrum29]

More of the poor people I know are into MMA and not boxing. Ffs just look at boxing crowds and see the number of dignified people in the audience, now turn and watch MMA, bunch of stained t-shirt wearing peasants.

That's only because historically just like when Royalty came out to see Gladiator matches, the highest and most esteemed were always interested in seeing the Creme de la Creme of combat, which today is boxing. Eminent individuals recognize that boxing is the most brutal and carnal of all sports.

[Fulcrum29]

Son, you are not on my level. I responded to points which I had indeed read, and stated my impression based on that. You telling me I need to read some crap you wrote is pure folly. I read enough to see it was crap, and I simply responded to what I had read.

Resorting to desperate name calling is just that - an act of desperation from an intellectually-inferior combatant who has lost. Take it in stride, kid.

[Hotsoup]

And no, ancient gladiators didn't roll around on the floor, tea bagging each other, and straddling each other in a "full mount." Sorry, they fought like warriors standing up with weapons for extended periods of time until blood, sweat, and tears were shed which is far more akin to boxing than current MMA. Boxers are the only true gladiators. They fight for 12 3 minute rounds for a total of 36 minutes of combat. A typical MMA match lasts 1-2 minutes and has a total of 5-20 landed blows. Not even a comparison. MMA is "Gladiator-Lite"

MMA has been happening since the Greek times..for thousands of years. Fedor is about as real and authentic as they come in terms of being a true Gladiator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pankration

[Swoosh]

I live in California, but i would bet that if you were to find actual numbers on business, especially upstart, you would find that MMA gyms outnumber boxing gyms by a significant number.

I do see MMA shooting itself in the foot, but to say that only privileged white kids are MMA fighters is being a bit ignorant. I coach a multiple belt winner of many different organizations and weight classes. He is not what you would consider "privileged" as a kid.

Many of these guys that you are saying are in college and are more privileged then poorer inner city kids, isn't necessarily true. A lot of these guys made it to college based on their wrestling or other sporting abilities. Getting a scholarship doesn't mean that someone is better off economically or socially.

[Drunken Cat]

Resorting to desperate name calling is just that - an act of desperation from an intellectually-inferior combatant who has lost. Take it in stride, kid.

Lol, what the fuck ever man. You are the one who has consistently dodged every one of my points, not the other way around.

You are biased, and will not be moved by reason, which is very typical. You will not accept as valid any argument which does not conform to your preconceived notions. I think this is obvious to everyone here, except yourself of course.