The Haye vs. Wlad contract..............WAS IT FAIR?

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  • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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    #21
    Originally posted by elephant man
    He signed it though,so he either didnt mind like his fanboys do or hes an absolute idiot.
    Your choice?
    Yes he did sign it. Then he realised the situation and backed out.

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    • Phirsole
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      #22
      If you are able to defeat the champion, and are able to repeat that stunt, you'll be dictating your own contract conditions.

      If he HAD defeated one or the other brother, the TV rights for the rematch would have been very profitable, and I assume he had gotten his share of it. I think the UK TV rights were his department, and just assume he had won vs. Wladimir - how much money would a UK company offer for the TV rights?

      So, a victory in the first fight would have given him a big payday in the second fight.

      I can't see any problems with the contract.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #23
        If it wasn't lopsided in Wlad's favor then it wouldn't be very fair now would it? Look Wlad was and still is the champ and had everything to lose here and more importantly what Haye wanted which is the straps. Who is Haye? he has nothing to offer and is getting what he wants which was a title shot, so what does Wlad get other than risk if we have a "fair" contract?

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        • Jim Jeffries
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          #24
          Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
          Yes he did sign it. Then he realised the situation and backed out.
          So you mean he's an idiot?

          Look when you make promises like fighting two top ten HWs, but you don't fight any. When you don't actually earn your shot the way Undisputed CW Champ Holyfield did at HW. Then you accept the contract the Champ gives you, or you screw off.

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          • Xyei
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            #25
            Originally posted by Carnivore
            The TS "Burner" doesn't really know what was in the contract, he just hates all white boxers and wants to make an excuse for Haye chickening out.

            Both Vitali and Arreola referred to Haye as a "vagina" yesterday at their press conference.
            Are you ****ing serious? LMAO

            Going to watch the video now. That's gold. I'd like to see Arreola vs. Haye actually.

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            • Chuckguy
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              #26
              Originally posted by elephant man
              Yes,no matter if the Klits wanted to tie him to 2 fights,3 fights,10 fights, the fact is they all would have been Hayes HIGHEST ever purses and made him extremely wealthy.
              You mention that if haye loses he gets no rematch,well why the hell should he?
              Should Chagaev get a rematch,or Tony Thompson?Hayes nothing in the division when he got beat down he wouldnt get a rematch,no one would.
              Haye has said himself numerous times that he wants to unify the division,he said he would easily defeat both Klitschkos,he would knock both of them out,well he got his chance twice and ducked both times.
              Hes not a mando to Wlad,he isnt a mando to Vitali,hes also been talking **** about both for months,if I was either bro I too would look to screw him in anyway I could,wouldnt you?
              Bottom line is it was a bull**** contract

              maybe it would have been his biggest payday but they are no where near the biggest draw
              maybe in europe somewhere but not over here where it counts

              you dont see Floyd or pacman have shyte like that in their contracts

              the fact is like him or not haye is a serious threat to the klits
              especially Vlad
              so the plan worked out perfect
              put so much shyte in there so he backs out
              that would have been the biggest payday for either Klit as well.
              WHy didnt they sue him because he did sign the contract?
              Cause they know Haye is a threat.

              Good ridence Klits
              and your bogus contracts

              let me ask you this
              why didnt they apply the same contract for Arreola?
              or anyone else they fight?

              cause to them there is no threat there

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              • Phirsole
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                #27
                Originally posted by Chuckguy
                Bottom line is it was a bull**** contract

                the fact is like him or not haye is a serious threat to the klits
                especially Vlad
                so the plan worked out perfect
                put so much shyte in there so he backs out
                that would have been the biggest payday for either Klit as well.
                WHy didnt they sue him because he did sign the contract?
                Cause they know Haye is a threat.

                let me ask you this
                why didnt they apply the same contract for Arreola?
                or anyone else they fight?

                cause to them there is no threat there
                How do you know that? Wlad was told that Haye pulled out during a press conference. Did you see his face turn to stone? HE WANTED the fight. He was definitely not afraid of Haye. They did not put shyte in the deal to make him pull out. Wlad wanted to defend the title, punish Haye for his big mouth, give a bombastic show in the arena, and get a decent payday. Is that bad?

                And how do you know that Arreola does have a different contract?

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                • Xyei
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy

                  Good ridence Klits
                  and your bogus contracts

                  let me ask you this
                  why didnt they apply the same contract for Arreola?
                  or anyone else they fight?


                  cause to them there is no threat there
                  Everyone else earned their fights with the Klitschkos by fighting top ranked HW fighters. All Gayfaker did was beat Barret and then start talking all kinds of ****. He didn't deserve a title shot but he got it anyway. Too bad he Gayfaked his way out of those fights to fight the Beast from the East. He's gonna have to fight the Klitschkos eventually and when he has a title, he'll have some more bargaining room and the contract won't seem so ludicrous.

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                  • Danny Gunz
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                    #29
                    Its not fair that haye would have been held to those many fights against the klits, but at the same time there is really no one else in the HW division to fight so it doesnt really make a difference

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