If PBF/JMM is a mismatch, then PBF/PAC is one to.

[Boxing Scene]

BS, Marquez can't knock anyone on their ass with 1 or 2 punches and he gets knocked down in almost every fight or at least hurt.

Pac will put you on your ass with 1, 2 or 3 punches, plus he has a WAY better chin than Marquez.

That's why this isn't a mismatch.

[Chuckguy]

dude PAC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JMM at 140 above
also havent you heard of style makes fights idiot

cotto beat mosley
margarito beat cotto
mosley beat margarito

IDIOT

HAHAHA
i see his point but I dont think he worded it right

everyone makes a big deal about Cotto being this huge WW but I think its Floyds Height that makes it ok cause he is only like 5'8" or something but he is wide

oh well we wil find out when the two clash in July of 2010

[TredKiller]

BS, Marquez can't knock anyone on their ass with 1 or 2 punches and he gets knocked down in almost every fight or at least hurt.

Pac will put you on your ass with 1, 2 or 3 punches, plus he has a WAY better chin than Marquez.

That's why this isn't a mismatch.

is that why JMM arguabley beat pac 2x?

[Kalion]

Pacquiao has had 2 fights at 140 + in which he completely analy ****d his competition which was either good or better than average. Those credentials are enough to make him a possible competitive opponent for a former RING and WBC undisputed WW champion.

Marquez has had 0 fights at 140 or above. Let me repeat that once more, Marquez has had 0 fights at 140 or above. He's only had 2 fights at 135. Yet he will be facing the former RING and WBC undisputed WW champion.

Mayweather fans are all about numbers and figures. They want to prove a point, they bust out his record, number of titles in diff divisions, amount of money he makes, PPV numbers. Well, those are the numbers regarding this matter. Which one seems more like a mismatch?

I think youre misunderstanding the point of the thread. My point is you cant write this off as a grotesque mismatch solely on weight alone. JMM is no average fighter, to say he has no chance in this match is unsensable. With that being said I strongly believe weight does not make fights. If JMM has KO the top fighters in both division hes moved up to, its not fair to him or his next opponent to say hes automaticaly out of his league now. If you want to rate this as a mismatch then rate it more on PBF being a better boxer than him just being the bigger man. But if you want to rate it on size and native weight classes then you msut do the same for PBF vs PAC.

[sycomantz]

You created a thread If PBF/JMM is a mismatch, then PBF/PAC is one to.

The reason why that is wrong is that in 3 fights above 130 (135,140,147) pac has dominated, looked good, has ko power, marquez even though he ko'd both fighters at 135, didnt look so dominant vs casa (a close fight up until the ko), vs baby bull a light hitting lightweight clearly rocked marquez. Now marquez is taking on a former 154 & 147 pound champion.

Do you not see the difference? Or do you just want reaffirmation of your own opinion?

two of those fights Pac fought someone who was a defeated man after mayweather. confidence and all. changed up camp as well. so everything was different with hatton

DLH was smaller than Pac so tell me thats not a problem.

im sorry about Pac's wins over Hatton and DLH arent any types of measuring sticks

and the OP is right. most of you speak out both sides of your mouths. if it was an even match for Pac and JMM to fight then its no different if Floyd fights them who isnt a legit welterweight. he trains to stay at that weight.

so if JMM vs floyd is a mismatch then so is Pac vs May.

either way i feel its a mismatch based on skill level....**** weight

neither JMM or Pac are on May's level. nor is Cotto or Shane.

so im ready to see May go through all these guys and shut people the **** up who will just come up with more excuses

[Ravishing]

Everytime there is a thread about PBF/JMM theres a ton of people claiming this is a one sided mismatch, PBF will destroy JMM with little effort, PBF should be ashamed for taking this fight ETC... All this and hes fighting the guy who is #2 p4p and arguably beat the p4p king of the sport right now twice.
Look at it this way.


If PBF>>>>>>>>>JMM
and JMM is considered to be PAC>=JMM
when compared to PAC.
Then how the hell can you say PAC<<<<<<<<
So if we all agree that PBF/JMM is a mismatch
Then we must agree PBF/PAC would also be one.

Agree or disagree?

Considering Pac's moved up and down in weight and still shows the speed and power transferring up with him, it sparks intrigue with fights now with Cotto and potentially Mayweather. JMM has fought both Casamayor and Juan Diaz and showed vulnerability against Diaz who had him on ***** street, adding along that he's 37 yrs old and has never fought over 135lbs, Pacquiao (30 yrs old) just seems like he's more than capable.

But this is Boxing...so you never know.

[sycomantz]

Pacquiao has had 2 fights at 140 + in which he completely analy ****d his competition which was either good or better than average. Those credentials are enough to make him a possible competitive opponent for a former RING and WBC undisputed WW champion.

Marquez has had 0 fights at 140 or above. Let me repeat that once more, Marquez has had 0 fights at 140 or above. He's only had 2 fights at 135. Yet he will be facing the former RING and WBC undisputed WW champion.

Mayweather fans are all about numbers and figures. They want to prove a point, they bust out his record, number of titles in diff divisions, amount of money he makes, PPV numbers. Well, those are the numbers regarding this matter. Which one seems more like a mismatch?

please stop acting like Pac faced to oppenents in good health.

DLH was physically in terrible shape(serverely...he weighed less than pac and looked like he had aids) and as a result mentally in bad shape as well

hattons confidence had totally been shaken up and zero taken brutally...he even changed his trainer which doesnt help ones confidence being that it was in a such a short time frame.

so your "**** ****" comment is terribly over the top since neither of these guys were in good shape. props to pac for winning but it doesnt tell anything.

let him get in the ring with May. i hope he beats Cotto so hes riding on cloud 9 so may can totally "**** ****" him and his followers

[madsweeney]

So what I'm seeing in this thread is that the PBF fans think its not a missmatch and don't expect weight to be a determining factor in missmatches.

The missmatchers have stated JMM's record, age, struggles @ 135 and contrasted his performances @ 135+ to pac's. So in other words, they're not basing things soley on weight.

Face it, weights do make fights otherwise there'd be no weight classes and people like DLH, Pac and Armstrong wouldn't be respected for their abilities to jump weight classes.

[sycomantz]

So what I'm seeing in this thread is that the PBF fans think its not a missmatch and don't expect weight to be a determining factor in missmatches.

The missmatchers have stated JMM's record, age, struggles @ 135 and contrasted his performances @ 135+ to pac's. So in other words, they're not basing things soley on weight.

Face it, weights do make fights otherwise there'd be no weight classes and people like DLH, Pac and Armstrong wouldn't be respected for their abilities to jump weight classes.

no. what you see is people saying that if its cool for Pac to fight JMM who arguably beat him. people want May to fight Pac but not JMM is speaking out both sides of their necks.


as i said, **** weight. skill wise, neither JMM or pac are on May's level. so yes its a mismatch but im not talking weight

its ok for DLH to fight a smaller guy. but its really wrong for May to fight a guy who calle dhim out who isnt that much smaller than him in natural weight.

not the weight May trains for to stay at

[Ray*]

The Mayweather/JMM/Pacman subject is kind of difficult to put through until we see the Mayweather/JMM fight, Its easy to make a win look bad by looking at the little things..

Skill-wise JMM is ahead of Pac but size-wise Pac is bigger than JMM, Pacman beat Hatton at 140 but would he have beaten Juan Diaz that easily???? Would he have beaten Casamayor like he did oscar???? Or would JMM had beaten Hatton and oscar that easy the way Pac did it???