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  • flyest1
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    #31
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    That was Shane's biggest mistake, "HIS BUSINESS DECISIONS".
    Sometimes I think Shane just lives in his own world.
    I think he does sometimes. I will give him this, he is a warrior and will fight anyone. But his business choices are crazy. I wonder how he would have been with Al Haymon or Shelly Finkel as his manager? I can never fault him for the Forrest fight. That was #1 and #2 in there prime. But fighting Winky was crazy. I also wish his dad wasn't his trainer after the first Forrest fight. Goosen and Richardson would have been great for him. My old man always told me, never have your family take care of your money. Thats was his mistake with Jin.

    I don't care if he fights that IBF belt holder from South Africa. He cant sit out a year. He can fight on ESPN or Showtime for all I care. My dude needs to get in that ring soon. iF WE KNOW IT, HE KNOWS IT

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      #32
      Originally posted by elmalo29
      that marg hype was dead along time ago when marg got caught with plaster wraps. he should fight clottey in nov. or dec. and go on from there. stop ducking.
      Mosley is not ducking Clottey. Arum hasn't put up an offer for Mosley to take that fight. Until that happens, people need to shut up about Clottey. The Cotto fans are making him out to be something that he is not because he roughed Cotto up the worst he has been roughed up besides the fights with Margarito and Mosley.

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      • Stoppage
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        #33
        Mosley should get into a fight soon. Not good to have such a long layoff at his age.

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        • Iceta
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          #34
          I do however know for a fact that Shane Mosley ducked Paul Williams. I'm a Mosley fan and I'm saying that as the truth. Mosley missed out on a big payday with that fight. Goosen came up with an initial offer of $3 million for Mosley to fight him, and I don't understand why people kept clamoring for a fight with Berto. HBO is putting up practically that same amount of money for Mosley and Berto to split down the middle. And now that Williams is probably going to go with the program and sign to fight Pavlik, Mosley is out of luck. He has brought this on himself. And Mosley deserves a big payday instead of Pavlik because he came up with the goods in the Margarito fight, of where Pavlik's Middleweight reign is not good on top of his loss to Hopkins and the payday that went with it.

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          • worldbestmcotto
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            #35
            Originally posted by Gabilan
            That would be great. The problem is that such long-term building up of fighters is not in Mosley's interests. He wants to get paid now. Too bad nobody is out there for him. Might as well unify with Berto while the other big dogs are fighting each other. I see a Mosley/Cotto rematch happening mid 2010.
            win,lose, or draw on either fighters upcoming fights.. Cotto won't fight mosley again anytime soon, Cotto only rematches after he loses, proof positive from even the amateur ranks and olympic qualifying rounds, as soon as that cheating bastard returns from suspension , cotto and more importantly arum greedy ass has his eyes set on that rematch . 1-keep the money in house with top rank , 2-theres too much anticipation of that fight than a mosley rematch, 3-doubt cotto will go to west coast where shane wants to fight at than east coast again,

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              #36
              Originally posted by worldbestmcotto
              win,lose, or draw on either fighters upcoming fights.. Cotto won't fight mosley again anytime soon, Cotto only rematches after he loses, proof positive from even the amateur ranks and olympic qualifying rounds, as soon as that cheating bastard returns from suspension , cotto and more importantly arum greedy ass has his eyes set on that rematch . 1-keep the money in house with top rank , 2-theres too much anticipation of that fight than a mosley rematch, 3-doubt cotto will go to west coast where shane wants to fight at than east coast again,
              Valid points. But I still stand by my "prediction." If Arum gives him the opportunity (which will only happen if Mosley beats a known fighter such as Berto or PWill) he will go wherever he is told. My prediction is based on Cotto beating Pac and from then onward Cotto will have all the leverage in the world. It is also based on the belief that no matter how badly Cotto beats Pac a fight with Mayweather will not be made any time soon. The Margarito fight is very tempting but we'll see if they even decide to reinstate him after his one year suspension. We'll have to see.

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                #37
                Originally posted by flyest1
                I think he does sometimes. I will give him this, he is a warrior and will fight anyone. But his business choices are crazy. I wonder how he would have been with Al Haymon or Shelly Finkel as his manager? I can never fault him for the Forrest fight. That was #1 and #2 in there prime. But fighting Winky was crazy. I also wish his dad wasn't his trainer after the first Forrest fight. Goosen and Richardson would have been great for him. My old man always told me, never have your family take care of your money. Thats was his mistake with Jin.

                I don't care if he fights that IBF belt holder from South Africa. He cant sit out a year. He can fight on ESPN or Showtime for all I care. My dude needs to get in that ring soon. iF WE KNOW IT, HE KNOWS IT
                Shane pops actually told him not to fight Wright but Mosley
                did it anyway. I would have NEVER had my wife handling my
                business affairs or even be next to my business. Jin was one
                of the main people in Shane's corner that didn't want him to
                fight Floyd. Vernon Forrest had to be done on all levels so
                can't knock him for that. After Mosley beat Oscar De La Hoya
                the first time that's when his business decisions and next
                career moves were crucial. I look at it like Mosley is supposed
                to be where Floyd and Oscar are right now. Have to give Mosley
                his props though, he does come to fight.
                Last edited by GRUSTLER; 08-07-2009, 06:24 PM. Reason: Spelling correction.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by worldbestmcotto
                  win,lose, or draw on either fighters upcoming fights.. Cotto won't fight mosley again anytime soon, Cotto only rematches after he loses, proof positive from even the amateur ranks and olympic qualifying rounds, as soon as that cheating bastard returns from suspension , cotto and more importantly arum greedy ass has his eyes set on that rematch . 1-keep the money in house with top rank , 2-theres too much anticipation of that fight than a mosley rematch, 3-doubt cotto will go to west coast where shane wants to fight at than east coast again,
                  Cotto is going to have to rematch Mosley at some point
                  because Mosley is the man to beat at 147 AND if Mosley
                  fights and beats Clottey and or Berto then Mosley would
                  have basically dominated the WW division. Cotto hasn't
                  beaten any fighter for a title and rematching Mosley for
                  the title would do him some justice for his legacy especially
                  IF he would go on to beat Mosley. Cotto claims as the best
                  in 147 would be cemented.

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                  • Iceta
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                    #39
                    Shane Mosley should just take this fight even if he has to sacrifice a little bit of money. Because if he stalls it, that is just more inactivity on his part. Berto should maybe get a little bit more than the original $750,000 that was proposed. But if Mosley can't get anymore money than $2.2 mill then he should just take another fight with someone who won't over value their worth. I'll bet that Sergio Martinez would fight Shane Mosley for a more reasonable amount than Berto would. Cintron can eat a ****.

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                    • worldbestmcotto
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      Cotto is going to have to rematch Mosley at some point
                      because Mosley is the man to beat at 147 AND if Mosley
                      fights and beats Clottey and or Berto then Mosley would
                      have basically dominated the WW division. Cotto hasn't
                      beaten any fighter for a title and rematching Mosley for
                      the title would do him some justice for his legacy especially
                      IF he would go on to beat Mosley. Cotto claims as the best
                      in 147 would be cemented.
                      aight G, tell me this, I know u big fan of mosley and all.cotto has already beat mosley one time, everyone knows that. But now in ur opinion cotto would have to beat mosley again for a worthless belt just to further his legacy,?? Cmon dawg, hes been there, done that. As far as beating a champion to WIN a belt rather to keep winning them while they are vacant does not cement legacy. No one has annnounced when introducing fighters ,"won 5 titles , while 3 were won while being vacant," u cement ur legacy by BEATING the best fighters , kind of like ur boy in ur avatar ..gtfoh G,

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